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originally posted in: Prove to me that you exist.
Edited by Sheogorath : 2/12/2015 3:35:48 PM
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Not at all. It may not be real, but it definitely exists to the observer. Existence does not depend on "realness" as what is real is not always clear. And back to your original question, you asked me to prove my existence, not whether or not I'm real. Back to your comment, in philosophy, existence only requires recognition by the observer. [quote]“Thus when I think a thing, through whichever and however many predicates I like (even in its thoroughgoing determination), not the least bit gets added to the thing when I posit in addition that this thing is. For otherwise what would exist would not be the same as what I had thought in my concept, but more than that"[/quote] This was taken directly from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. As I said, these things I'm talking about are well proven. Your argument rendered invalid once again...
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    But again, that's all subjective. Subjective is not reality. Objective is.

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  • No it's not. Subjective means that something is based on opinions or influenced by personal opinion. None of these concepts that I've been talking about are in any way opinions or personal, biased thoughts. They are quite concrete and based on pure logic that has been proven and is irrevocable. This is what philosophy is, the study of knowledge, reality, and existence, all [b]proven[/b] through logic.

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