I used my previous (pre-dlc) buyed from vendor, and it was just max stable. Like a sniper auto rifle. Then xur selled suros and everybody was using it so i bought one... then vex ofcourse, now i use the last word because it's fun but i still have a big sentiment for Vanquisher VIII i even tried to use one in iron banner but it was only 300 and everybody was 32 then...