Interesting. I tried reading the Grimoire Cards, but I kinda wish Bungie would just publish a chronological book. It'd be so much easier to follow. [b]HEY BUNGIE, I REPEAT, I WOULD ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY ON A COMPANION BOOK...[/b] This is what I did read though: "In the wake of the Traveler, many years later, came the Darkness. The Darkness — the ancient enemy of the Traveler, and the powerful force that nearly stamped us out. It brought on the Collapse and forced us into the last corner of the world. With one valiant push, the builders of the Wall of our Last City (the Titans), the rouges of the wild (the Hunters), and the scholars of magic (the Warlocks) came together to defend us in our last breath. But it was not enough." Soooo, I dunno, does this support what you say? Or were they here in the days of the Traveler? Or did you read that they came after the traveler somewhere else? This story still confuses me the more I think about it, but I like using my imagination to fill in the gaps instead of reading the cards. Makes it more fun.