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Edited by Charlemagne: 2/26/2014 4:00:17 PM
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Does The Human Torch's Skintone Matter?

Yes, I want him to be caucasian.

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No, I'm fine with him being black.

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Does it matter to you? The only argument I've heard that has any value is the fact that his sister is white. That said, mixed-race families can have children of different colours. Maybe one parent got divorced after having a child with their first spouse and had the second with their second spouse. Maybe one is adopted. He was cast for his acting abilities, not his skin colour. Also, Jessica Alba isn't exactly white yet no one freaked out about her being cast as Invisible Girl.
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  • Edited by KeeblerElvesYaoi: 2/26/2014 2:54:17 AM

    Started a new topic: Would a Black Superman Seem Odd?(44 Replies))

  • Black James Bond next.

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    • Since when is the Human Torch black? Are they making a new movie or something? [quote]Also, Jessica Alba isn't exactly white yet no one freaked out about her being cast as Invisible Girl.[/quote] That's because the only people who [i]would have[/i] freaked out were busy having sexual fantasies about her.

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      • Don't all people look the same once they're set ablaze?

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        • Does it matter?

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        • Ah, superhero movies, something i can get my teeth into. The skin tone doesn't really impact anything other than the source material, but the tone of the movie itself stinks. The franchise should be in Marvel's hands by now. I won't be watching it, and i suggest everyone who wants The Avengers to face off against Galactus, Dr Doom and Silver Surfer, shouldn't see it either. :-)

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        • So what other color is Jessica Alba besides White? A tint of tan? I liked the actor who played Human Torch in Fantastic Four even though he is Captain America so that sucks if they plan on putting Fantastic four with Avengers or SHIELD. But it'd be nice for him to be white since they kept Nick Fury black then why not keep Human Torch White?

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          • Edited by DEZARATH: 2/26/2014 7:26:54 PM
            It's weird If you grew up in the 70s, he was a blonde white kid poking Ben Grim to get him mad. Same with Nick Fury, only a reddish hair with white side burns and cigar. Those were the established character created by Stan Lee, Kirby and following writers and artists through the 70s to the 90s. It's like suddenly they cast Bruce Willis to play Luke Cage, or the Black Panther for demographics, or the writer just saying run with it. A bald white guy is perfect for the ruler of a powerful African nation. But with Marvel you're sitting on top of a gagillion Multi universes ready to cater to any exposition. So if it makes the current generation of readers happy with the storyline then there you go.

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            • How often will his normal skin be shown anyway? His super power involves lighting himself on fire. But honestly it doesn't matter. I don't remember if ultimate torch is black or not but there are so many marvel multiverses that I'm sure it's canon somewhere. Only thing I wonder is how they will explain the brother sister thing, as you stated before.

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              • I updated the OP. [quote]Jessica Alba isn't exactly white yet no one freaked out about her being cast as Invisible Girl.[/quote]

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              • They can make him black, doesn't make a difference. I don't like the reason though. Why must they change it? Does it make him look more "cool", or make him a better character? Nope. They are doing it because of political bullshit. The fact that there is political crap regarding race is the problem, not that a fictional character was white. Racism exists because we constantly point out that someone is "black" or "white". When that should never be a defining trait.

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                • He should start off as white and in the end he should use so much fire that his skin is burned and he turns black

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                  • The Ashy-ness of the Black Torches skin allows for more effective combustion and heat absorption! HUZZAH [spoiler]Racist comment is only Heavily racist. But seriously it doesn't matter.[/spoiler]

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                  • [b] [/b]

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                  • IT ONLY MATTERS WHEN HE ISN'T BEING A FLAMER.

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                  • To spite everyone, they should make him be played by a wildly different actor in every scene.

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                    • They should make him the same color they made him in previous comics and movies.

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                    • I don't mind him being black. In an unrelated note, John Stewart is the best Green Lantern.

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                    • He should be black because he is burnt.

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                    • Edited by Lord Commissar: 2/25/2014 11:51:26 PM
                      Eh... I like consistency with characters. It isn't about a character being black, white, gay, or straight. For example I wouldn't like it if hotspot was changed from an African guy to a white guy and I wouldn't like it if the Silver Spooner was changed from an effeminate ambiguously gay guy to a super buff macho man.

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                      • No, as long as he portrays the character faithfully to the source material. I'd rather have a competent actor who isn't tailored to the character's race play said character, as opposed to an incompetent actor who is.

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                        • May I ask why this conversation is important?

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                          • Technically speaking, he should be black... I mean, we're talking about a guy that sets himself on fire, surely that would char his skin...

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                            • If the sister was also black that'd be fine, but otherwise it feels too much like tokenism. That said, however, my personal pick for the FF would be the main cast of It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia with Charlie Day as Mr. Fantastic... Because... -blam!- yeah that'd be amazing.

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                              • If I was excited for the movie at all, it might.

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                              • It's not the character being black I don't like, it's that most of the time when directors/producers do this it's just 'cause they want to seem hip and progressive. Kinda pointless to just change an established character like that. Of course I can't prove that's always the case, so arguing it is pointless.

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