It already killed the game a long time ago. Ya'll are just NOW starting to realize it. This game aint comin back with the community it has now. They are entrenched and imbedded in the game and Bungie has NO IDEA whatsoever how to deal with it and how detrimental it has been. None of this will change however because Bungo is far too clueless and playing impossible catch up to even notice what's going on. It's too late for this game, most NORMAL people have moved on .

There is definitely a lack of patience now. People try to blow through content as fast as possible... Even normal movement is too slow, have to eager edge. For a casual and fun experience you almost need to just find a chill clan or get lucky in lfg.

When I raid, I normally keep my mic muted. What other said before me are pet peeves, but another is when someone decides that everyone must listen to their music or listen to them eat.

People who equate success and fun ruined the game.

I only raid with the clan these days. Generally two or three a month which is enough for me. My lfg experiences with raiding have been 95% miss, 5% hit. Egotists, taking 30 mins to teach an encounter only for a kid to dip just at the point of a success because his mum called him to dinner, racists, people who leave after a single failed encounter, people whose characters (and player familiarity with abilities) aren't ready for raiding, etc., etc. I know a lot of people have called for raid matchmaking but I think it would be a disaster. We did take some people through Last Wish when guided games was a thing, I am not against helping people. I just don't have so much leisure time I want to spend it being really frustrated.

Idk what it is about destiny 2 players and microphones, but most of the people that I’ve encountered who use them in game, seem to have a stick in their -blam!- and start raging in chat, threatening to kick anyone who messes up. What’s worse is when they’re guildies who deliberately queue up to gang up and harrass players that join their raids in the group finder. All of this has contributed to the very things you complain about, and led players to not want to interact socially.

I agree with you 100% and there's 2 things that I personally blame... Root of Nightmares and Discord/Streaming. Ok, let me explain. hahhahaaa (1) Root of Nightmares is just the avatar/example of me trying to say "power creep and/or easy mechanics". Its my most hated raid cuz its the one that someone in LFG will inevitably try to solo. You know the type... they spawn in & tell everyone to just ad clear. They'll silently solo the first & second encounters, yell at the new guy who doesnt know not to shoot the nodes. They fly thru the jumping puzzle, leaving slower players in a constant loop of rezzing themselves right before the blast-wipe kills them yet again, only to finally make it to the end & then cant proceed because its a buddy door & the one guy who actually new the path well enough to teach everyone, decided instead to mountain-top over the door... all so that he could be the first one there, just sitting around waiting by himself, and then eventually yell at everyone to leave & join back. Same concept of the idiot who takes the chalice in the Stills & is so desperate to be the first one to the end, that he grapples/mountain-tops himself miles ahead of everyone, then dies to engulfed cuz the nearest person to take it from him was 6 lanterns behind. I do blame the people who join these group activities, when they clearly dont like being part of a group... but I also blame Bungie for the technical side of not patching or preventing these types of things. Like, Riven legit is a perfect example of an encounter where communication is absolutely necessary, but we've been allowed to cheese it for so many years that most people dont even know there's a "legit" way to do it. Everyone silently beats Riven in 3 minutes, then the fireteam either falls apart in QueensWalk, or it takes 2 hours to complete. If we were forced to use comms earlier in the raid, we could weed out the people who make it fall apart in the end. (2) The discord thing. How many LFG's have I joined where like 3 people are in their own discord, completely ignoring the other 3 players? They're communicating with each other, bulldozing the rest of the team, trying to 3-man all the mechanics & causing avoidable wipes, all cuz they cant be bothered to leave their precious Discord & communicate with the voice-chat plebs. Or they will put up a "teaching" post & someone like me joins with 100 clears of whatever raid... but the "teaching" run is actually a guy with 3 clears who is streaming himself "teach" his buddy who's never done it. They cant hear the rest of the fireteam cuz they're in the Discord/stream together & we just keep wiping everytime they screw up. They could have had an actual smooth run, with experts teaching them the ins & outs, but again, they refuse to communicate with the rest of the team. Its like they joined a fireteam finder, but they didnt really want a fireteam, they just wanted extras in the background of their own personal raid movie. I hate Desert Perpetual, I really do... but at least it forces people to communicate.

Looking at that wall of text, you probably don't give them chance to talk 🤣

I blame all the elitists and kwtd guys, people already have anxiety so you add that with not knowing what to do and a bad encounter people aren't really interested in talk. It used to be so bad people would wait till a raid was near completion and intentionally kick people out so they can't get loot. I ain't perfect and we are all guilty of it but the danger is never addressing the cause and only noticing the effects.

I’ve been teaching new clan members and other players recently and I 100 percent agree. There are so many runs that I’ve done with completely silent groups, some use dis it’s and others are just silent and have no patience for new players. The new players want the loot and to learn but these ego guardians want to solo the raid and criticize everyone or just leave. Raid with good kind ppl and you’ll have a good time. I’ve played with amazing players and I am an amazing player as well. A lot of ppl don’t have the patience to do raids except with their 1000 clear buddies lol. If you ever wanna raid hit me up. I enjoy raiding

I’ve noticed some of the same issues. Been playing since the D1 beta and there’s still content I’m trying to catch up on. Mess up a couple times and the fire team is just gone. But there’s also content I know how to run and run efficiently. Recently noticed fire team members didn’t understand the mechanics in a dungeon. I offered to explain it and they just dipped out. I know a lot of players have done things so many times they don’t have patience for mistakes, and I understand that. But I usually always offer to explain it if I see someone doesn’t understand.

Good thing they nerfed Khepris Horn

Are you joining mic required runs? Or just any of them?