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Edited by Khronikos:
8/5/2026 1:00:38 AM
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Shotgun slide is out of hand with armor perks.
For things that need to be balanced but probably never will be, I think the worst idea they had was to make sliding even more egregious than it was before. Bungie to me is a company that just never had a coherent plan, and PvP was a mode that never got the love it should have over time.
Way too many mistakes being made, not enough maps, and the PvP team never planned ahead for expansions and broken stuff. They also... never had a coherent plan for the overall direction of PvP. Seemed like they couldn't read data well, and they catered to some weird crowd of sweats that nobody in their right mind would ever cater to in making a game successful.
They also never did much about cheating either, which is absolutely rampant in this game with Cronus and Titan. Not as bad as Apex but certainly still under the radar. I think people would be surprised at how many players use Cronus and other cheats at the top.
And now we have this. They obviously did not plan ahead for this. And there is a LOT of broken stuff. But shotgun slides with artifact might be the most broken and brain-dead of them all.
I used to want all the armor and artifacts, but now it feels like I want a mode without any of that available at all times. Really wish Bungie had another month to sort through all of this because leaving the game in this state is awful.
Without there being a solo-only mode, the game kind of becomes a complete mess more than normal as certain players have to fight against teamshooting without any of their own to combat it properly.
It leaves you with a game that has some of the worst matchmaking I have ever seen in all of gaming. Trials, Comp, IB, 6v6. I've never seen such horrible teams put together on such a consistent basis win or lose.
And don't even get me started on being thrown into auto-losses. I have a career solo 40% win rate, and it's not for lack of trying. This game literally WANTS me to lose. Not sure if they have an engagement algorithm, but I would not be surprised with how awful the management was and is at Bungie.
IDK man feels like a better company would have made this portion of the game a lot more stable and welcoming to newer players along with a high skill ceiling for better players. But there are so many nutty things going on now, and as a last major patch it was WAY too much at once.
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You’re rocking a trespasser… just aim better…
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2 RepliesFrom day one the sandbox should have been split.... PvE perks only working in PvE PvP perks only working in PVP Separate tuning... Armor, weapon and otherwise... Problem was destiny was never meant to be a PVP game and it still isn't everyone seems to forget this
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1 ReplyIf I may add, Cronus isn't exactly Bungie's fault. That crappy little device has been out for years, and basically greenlit the cheating scene on console hardware. That's squarely on Microsoft and Sony. Frankly, I'd say Cronus should've been sued yesterday.
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A lot of things are out of hand in pvp ….just the way it is now . I’ll play till the wheels come off or are get bored
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They weighed, throttled and skewed everything else in the game to inflate playtime. No reason not to think PvP mm doesn’t have a win loss ratio slant that can only be overcome by skilled players
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2 RepliesEdited by BansheeTwin350: 8/4/2026 4:59:34 PMArmor sets, artifacts, and certain parts of weapon perks (amplified portion of gearshift) should be disabled in the standard playlists. Put that stuff in mayhem and give people an option. It wasn't too long ago when they nerfed sword logic on redrix. And the reason was it didn't require as much work as something like kill clip so it shouldn't be as strong. Makes sense. But now they introduce something like gearshift that doesn't even require engagement and is a bigger damage buff than kill clip. And it pushes everyone to run hunter. When I first saw the comp set bonus increasing speed and slide distance, I knew it was going to be a huge problem. There's a reason why we mostly can't change the base impact or rpm of a weapon. When you change those, it breaks the weapon out of its archetype and becomes OP. Same thing goes with drastically changing the speed of guardians. It only works if everyone or nobody has it.
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1 ReplyThere is a huge issue with survivability builds in PVP. Nothing is going to be done about it, we either adapt or die 👍
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1 ReplyConsidering that it makes you harder to hit when you slide it's only fair that sliding should incur an accuracy penalty. Make it like hip firing but worse.
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4 Repliesnever make a post on forums after a bad pvp session. makes you consider slide shotgun as the most broken thing in this game even tough it clearly isnt even close.
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Adapt and overcome.. Beat em or join em.
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Which armor?
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What’s the armour set? I’ll join in.
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Another abused armor set shocker... They'll probably disable it... I sed before it's only a matter of time... The crucible will be very fair with a stale meta of two ish builds per map and A few counter builds with all outliers either disabled or completely ineffective... Post...
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1 ReplyBoo Hoo cry baby 🥲🥲😢😭
