"Let them eat cake"

[quote] you can clearly see that most of the toxicity within the Bungie community comes from the PvE side of the playerbase anyway.[/quote]LOOOOL

Nah, major cope.

Ahh yes the game with a 565m imparement loss, didnt recoup development cost, and has less active players than destiny 2..... Def the right choice....

[quote]As a marathon and Destiny PvP player, [/quote] 2 different games at the design level; 2 completely different experiences. [quote]I honestly think Marathon is the right move for Bungie. I’ve spent years buying Destiny expansions mostly for the PvP side of things, so I really wouldn’t mind Destiny slowing down a bit if it means Bungie finally puts real effort into competitive multiplayer again.[/quote] Destiny was never a competitive multiplayer game, being peer-to-peer. "Host" team won probably 90%+ of the time if i had to make a wager. [quote]And after everything that’s happened recently, you can clearly see that most of the toxicity within the Bungie community comes from the PvE side of the playerbase anyway. At this point, I’d honestly rather see Bungie separate itself from that crowd completely.[/quote] Before the game was made the said it's "not for destiny players", so that perceived toxicity you found is coming from the marathon producers: not destiny customers. [quote]If that eventually means Destiny dies so Bungie can fully commit to a dedicated PvP future, then so be it.[/quote] I never played halo pvp so not sure if it was peer-to-peer or if it was dedicated servers, but if it was as bad as destiny's pvp, full commitment to pvp won't help. Ask concord. Ask overwatch. Ask titanfall. Only 2 pvp games have been actually mainstream "successful" (CoD, Fortnite) the rest just pull in enough players to keep the servers on for the most part. Pvp is mid as a gaming genre altogether so not sure why they thought destiny players would rescue marathon. Like they said, it's not for them.

Hope their plans for additional modes includes something very casual. Something arena like i can play without a mic, without headphones, just drop in and drop out.

Would have played it if it was an arena shooter also.

Bungie has always done ARENA PVP shooters well. This extraction shooter mess is all new, and I am much less interested in the format

I played the free weekend before launch. Wasn’t enough there to really pull me in. A lot of the menu stuff was confusing. The amount of time I’ve had to spend on youtube, listening to podcasts and reading forum just to understand Destiny thru the years was enough to pass on Marathon. I dont want to go thru that again for another game.

Marathon and fun and a good game but nowhere near has the capacity of Destiny. A PvE mode will help bring more numbers in but it’s not got the mass appeal currently to survive.

Marathon does look interesting I've watched some gameplay it's fun to watch I'm not sure how much I'd enjoy it playing though.