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5/19/2026 8:58:36 AM
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Having to play on ultimate difficulty for worthwhile rewards feels awful
I wanted the bonus focus reward, but the mission is too difficult to solo without prismatic ability spam builds.
I don't find prismatic ability spam fun. I want to make cool niche builds, but there's no point when the answer to "should I use frost armor, amplified, or woven mail for damage resistance" is "all of them at once". To me it feels like buildcrafting has devolved into trying to put everything into one build and watch enemies explode. Champions, tormentors, subjugators, husks, and the like hurt niche builds more than they rein back in the strongest builds. I don't get to use the weapons I like because they can't stun champions, or they deal reduced damage to subjugators, so on and so forth.
If I have to play the reworked RaD activities on ultimate difficulty with modifiers to get (tier 5) rewards then I will just not engage with any of that content because I don't find it enjoyable.
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Bungie still doesn’t understand the core loop of a looter shooter. Players grind for hundreds of hours to hit max Power, optimise builds, and earn top-tier loot so they can finally feel powerful in endgame content. Instead of rewarding that investment, Bungie punishes players the moment they reach the top by forcing artificial difficulty modifiers, nerfs, and obnoxious modifiers just to make the game feel “challenging.” A looter shooter should reward progression — not invalidate it. What’s the point of grinding for god rolls and perfect builds if the endgame just handicaps players with forced difficulty gimmicks? Difficulty should come from mechanics and encounters, not from stripping away player power after they’ve earned it.
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Im told its a skill issue. But then somebody just reported me for hate speech for being sarcastic & saying "Shut up & Buff Fusion Rifles & #MakeGhjallahornGreatAgain so Ive just given up with the game & people still playing it. Infact im only here now to see how hyped people are for the new eververse rotation.
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2 RepliesYou will have to play woth modifiers, if you actually want to improve feel free to message me and ill coach you, and get you used to what is useable and how to use it now. If not then best of luck.
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1 ReplyEdited by Sen: 5/20/2026 3:51:46 PMThat's fine if you don't find it enjoyable. The game was founded upon what you don't find enjoyable. We used to not be able to get to max power without raids or endgame. Hardest activities. Hard mode used to have exclusive weapons and we didn't have ANY revives for the encounters in D1. It's fine that you don't like it, but understand that you deserve the loot you get for refusing. People love the triumph and overcoming the resistance the game grants and beating it. That's the whole point. If you refuse, you get the loot that you deserve. Nothing needs to change there. And it's normal for most players to not do hard stuff in these types of games. You have alternatives through orders and buying loot from zavala and easy seasonal content. That's your escape from ultimate Bungie has to do one simple thing that they have done before: REMOVE DELTAS SO WE CAN OVERLEVEL WITH THE ARTIFACT AGAIN.
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1 Replydont play then...
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[quote]I will just not engage with any of that content because I don't find it enjoyable.[/quote] This is my approach as well. 👍
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Yeah…..you grind and grind to get to max level in order to get tier 5 loot only to find that you then have to grind again utilising difficulties modifiers to actually get the tier 5 loot you want. Think it used to be called bait & switch.
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9 RepliesWhy shouldn’t the best/highest rewards be for the highest difficulty? If you need to get used to a build or get better, then practice on the lower difficulties until you can hone your skillset.
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Edited by Magiscene: 5/20/2026 1:01:13 PMYeah it’s pretty bad. People will just say skill issue all day. IMO The problem isn’t skill it’s having to do it for everything to get optimal loot score. It’s just exhausting. Hopefully it changes soon. Hopefully we don’t have to use the feat system to get t5s in the old RaDs because i just want to enjoy chill rsid experiences with my clan again not contest like difficulty with toxic lfgs
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The grind is killing the game. Its the end of the game. The carrot on a stick approach didn't work. Its time Bungie tried something different
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3 RepliesNaww, you have to do something more challenging to get the " Better " Loot. Imagine that. Getting rewarded for completing something difficult. Damn Bungie, how dare ? Honestly they should just make is so that we can get literally everything from a patrol, heck why not just spawn it into our inventory ? I can't be asked to do patrols, i can barely be asked to play the game.
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Tbf Tier 5 are barely an improvement on regular weapons besides durations on buffs for certain perks. If they removed deltas it would feel more manageable to use non ability based builds.
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[quote] To me it feels like buildcrafting has devolved into trying to put everything into one build and watch enemies explode.[/quote] So let me get this straight. 🤔 You "explode" every enemy BUT is too hard? If you can "explode everything" and STILL have a hard time getting the activity done is a you problem bud.
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Ultimate difficulty (iam pretty sure it's old legendary difficult)is not even that hard in the first place and why in the hell you running solo ,u can do matchmade ones or use LFG And iam completely disagree with you about prismatic,you don't need prismatic to run portal ultimate difficulty activities And finally iam tired of people complain about difficult of this game yes there lot of wrong things in this game but this ain't one of them maybe try good build ,run with people and next upd u can upgrade your low tier weapons anyway
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I made a free account on an alt account on PS5. Just curious about the new light experience as everyone says it is terrible. Now that you get given 300 power gear off the bat, you need to do master content (meaning champions) to progress. Welcome to d2! Want to increase your power? Fight these overloads with your blue guns. Experienced players playing on a new account can still compete the content no trouble (by using aspects, artifact perks etc) but for someone new to the game it would be a very sub-optimal experience. Quite the mess, the new light complainers are right, IMHO. This is just mechanics, let alone the navigation of what story content you should follow.
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Yeah. Same couple of weapons all the time.
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2 RepliesWow. It’s almost like people like me said this would backfire but y’all just keep grinding away until you got sick of it. 🤷 Way too late to complain now, game is dead
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PSA: Exotic class items and the Ergo Sum swords are dropping frequently just by doing stuff and harvesting chests in The Pale Heart. I care for neither…though some might?! 🤔 Fill yer boots! 👈 That is all. Carry On 🥶
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[quote] I don't find prismatic ability spam fun. I want to make cool niche builds, but there's no point when the answer to "should I use frost armor, amplified, or woven mail for damage resistance" is "all of them at once".[/quote] Right there with ya brother! Have never been on the Prismatic Train. Transcendence is antithetical to the game's intrinsic design. The limitations within the Subclass are equally frustrating. The fact we're going on 2 years with it being hard meta is infuriating. I've been fortunate to have quality friend groups that eventually shifted away from the subclass. We all got sick of infinite Consecration and Turret spam. The base Subclasses require way more buildcrafting knowledge and offer more rewarding gameplay loops. Shame the BEST Exotic in the game (ie Peregrine's) doesn't function at a high level in -50 content, despite being more challenging to execute with and strategize around. I've been against Prismatic for almost it's entire existence. Was slammed repeatedly over my takes during TFS concerning how it was destroying the game. Glad the sentiment is finally catching up! Loot feels meaningless when Abilities just dominate the sandbox. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/264474782
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[quote]I wanted the bonus focus reward, but the mission is too difficult to solo without prismatic ability spam builds. I don't find prismatic ability spam fun. I want to make cool niche builds, but there's no point when the answer to "should I use frost armor, amplified, or woven mail for damage resistance" is "all of them at once". To me it feels like buildcrafting has devolved into trying to put everything into one build and watch enemies explode. Champions, tormentors, subjugators, husks, and the like hurt niche builds more than they rein back in the strongest builds. I don't get to use the weapons I like because they can't stun champions, or they deal reduced damage to subjugators, so on and so forth. If I have to play the reworked RaD activities on ultimate difficulty with modifiers to get (tier 5) rewards then I will just not engage with any of that content because I don't find it enjoyable.[/quote] Lol.
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Tbf you can get t4's and play 99% of this game the same. Complaining about doing hard content and limited build crafting is like complaining that water is wet. Hard content should require specific loadouts to conquer them. You can drop it down to lower difficulties and play with chill loadouts.
