I want to talk about Dredgen Yor, not just as an old lore villain or “the guy with Thorn,” but as one of the most important characters in Destiny. As Destiny moves beyond the Light and Darkness Saga, Yor feels more relevant than ever. We have killed gods, entered the Traveler, defeated the Witness, and now wield Light, Darkness, and Prismatic. We are stepping into stranger territory with the Nine, fate, identity, other dimensions, and possibly things beyond the Traveler and the Darkness. So if Destiny is evolving beyond simple Light vs Dark, why are we not returning to the first Guardian who understood that Light alone was not enough? That Guardian was Rezyl Azzir. That Guardian became Dredgen Yor. Before he was Yor, Rezyl Azzir was one of humanity’s great early champions. A Titan. A hero. A protector. He was not some weak Guardian tempted by power. He was already powerful, respected, and heroic. That is what makes his fall matter. If Rezyl had always been evil, Yor would just be another villain. But if Rezyl was truly heroic, then his fall means something bigger. One of the greatest heroes of the Light looked into the Darkness and realized the Light alone might not be enough. That is terrifying, and it is extremely relevant now. The modern Guardian has proven that point. We use Stasis. We use Strand. We use Prismatic. We have become something the old Vanguard would have feared. We are not simply soldiers of the Light anymore. We are wielders of paracausal forces that once seemed forbidden. But Rezyl saw that road first. He just walked it before anyone was ready. My theory is this: Dredgen Yor was the failed prototype of the modern Guardian, maybe even the failed prototype of Prismatic. Rezyl tried to do what our Guardian eventually succeeded in doing. He tried to face the Darkness, understand it, take it into himself, and become stronger for it. But he did it alone. No Vanguard support. No Eris guiding him. No Elsie explaining Stasis. No Osiris helping us understand Strand. No community. No balance. No framework. Just one hero, one weapon, Hive corruption, and the abyss. Because he was alone, he failed. Rose became Thorn. Rezyl became Yor. Light and Darkness did not become Prismatic inside him. They became infection. That is why Yor matters. He is not just a warning that Darkness is bad. Destiny has moved beyond that. Darkness is not automatically evil. Light is not automatically good. The Traveler is not simple. The Witness was not the Darkness itself. The universe is stranger than that. Yor is the warning that power without wisdom destroys the self. He is what happens when a Guardian touches the Darkness without the tools to survive it. Now imagine a Destiny universe where Rezyl never becomes Yor. No Thorn legend. No Shin Malphur revenge myth. No Last Word and Thorn rivalry. No Golden Gun moment at Dwindler’s Ridge in the same mythic way. No Shadows of Yor. No Shin testing Guardians who walk too close to Darkness. No long question of whether Guardians can use Darkness without falling. No real cultural preparation for Stasis, Strand, or Prismatic. Without Yor, the Vanguard’s worldview may have stayed simple: Light good. Darkness bad. Trust the Traveler. Destroy the enemy. That was never going to be enough. Not against the Witness. Not against the Hive. Not against the Deep. Not against the Nine. Not against whatever exists above or beyond the Traveler and the Darkness. Yor forced the question early: Can a Guardian touch the abyss and remain themselves? At first, the answer seemed to be no. Rezyl touched the abyss and became Dredgen Yor. But then Shin happened. Then the Shadows of Yor happened. Then the Young Wolf happened. Then Stasis happened. Then Strand happened. Then Prismatic happened. So maybe Dredgen Yor was not the end of the road. Maybe he was the first footprint. Yor killing Jaren Ward was not just murder. It was a ritual. A transfer. A wound designed to become a weapon. Jaren was Shin’s mentor and the wielder of The Last Word. Yor defeated him with Thorn, a Weapon of Sorrow capable of attacking Light itself. Then Yor left The Last Word behind for Shin. That is not ordinary villain behavior. Yor left Shin with trauma, purpose, inheritance, and a weapon. Years later, when Shin finally faced him, Yor said he had been waiting. Most importantly, Yor did not raise Thorn against Shin. That moment feels less like a duel and more like an initiation. Yor became the abyss so Shin could become the fire. Shin’s Light erupted through The Last Word. After that, Shin became more than a hero who killed a monster. He became a judge, a test, a filter for Guardians who walked too close to Darkness. Yor’s influence did not end with his death. It continued through Shin. And Shin’s philosophy helped prepare the way for Guardians like us, Guardians who could wield Darkness without becoming slaves to it. In a strange and horrifying way, Yor helped bring the Light out of other Guardians by becoming the thing they had to overcome. Even his name matters. Dredgen Yor means “The Eternal Abyss.” An abyss is not just darkness. It is bottomless depth. The unknown. The void. The place where meaning collapses. The place where hope goes to die. Eternal means it does not end. So Dredgen Yor is not just saying, “I am evil now.” He is saying: I am the endless depth that Light must learn to survive. A black hole is a good real-world image for it. A black hole consumes light, bends reality, and makes escape almost impossible once you cross the event horizon. But Yor is worse than a black hole. A black hole consumes light because of gravity. Yor consumed hope because he chose to. That is why his name matters. He became a living abyss for Guardians to stare into. Some, like Shin, came out stronger. And this is why Bungie should use him now. Yor was killed by Shin, yes. But his Ghost, Vincent, was not destroyed in their famous parting. Vincent left him. Yor rejected him. That means there is still a huge lore possibility: Vincent may still exist. And if Vincent still exists, then the impossible question remains: Could Dredgen Yor be revived? If Vincent revived him, who would come back? Rezyl Azzir, the noble Titan? Dredgen Yor, the Eternal Abyss? Or something worse, something in between? That is exactly the kind of question Destiny should ask in its next era. Osiris was lost, used, broken, and left in a state that seemed impossible to return from. But Destiny found a way to bring him back. So why is Rezyl Azzir beyond saving? Yes, Yor is different. Yor chose his path. Yor rejected his Ghost. Yor became cruel. He killed innocents. He murdered Guardians. He became a monster. But that is why his return would be powerful. Saving Rezyl would not just be healing a body. It would be asking: Can the Light resurrect the soul of someone who willingly became the abyss? That is a DLC. That is a campaign. That is a story worth telling. My ideal expansion would be **Destiny 2: Abyss Eternal**. Vincent reappears and tells Ikora, Shin, Drifter, Eris, or us that he can still feel Rezyl Azzir. Not Dredgen Yor. Rezyl. Buried somewhere beneath the abyss. But something else can feel him too. The Darkness left inside Thorn. The Hive corruption. The old abyss. Maybe even the Nine, who see Yor as a unique experiment in identity and paracausal transformation. Now everyone wants what is left of Rezyl Azzir. The Vanguard wants to contain him. Shin wants to destroy him if necessary. Drifter wants to understand him. Eris fears what he could become. Vincent wants to know if his Guardian can still be saved. And us? We decide whether bringing him back is salvation or madness. The whole expansion should ask: Was Dredgen Yor a failure, or was he the first Guardian to see what we would all eventually need to become? If Bungie brings Yor back, he should not be a generic raid boss. He should return as a contradiction. Half Rezyl. Half Yor. Half saint. Half abyss. A resurrected Titan -blam!- the Light, but still carries the wound of Thorn inside him. Not a monster who wants to destroy the universe, but a fallen hero who believes the universe cannot survive unless Guardians become more than servants of the Light. Dredgen Yor should not be remembered only as a monster. Rezyl Azzir was a hero. Dredgen Yor was the abyss that hero became. Somewhere between those identities is one of Destiny’s most important questions: Can a Guardian fall into Darkness and still leave behind a path toward the Light? Without Yor, maybe Shin never becomes Shin. Without Shin, maybe the Shadows of Yor never become the test. Without that test, maybe Guardians are never prepared to wield Darkness. Without that preparation, maybe Stasis, Strand, and Prismatic never become part of what we are. So maybe Dredgen Yor did not simply corrupt Destiny’s heroes. Maybe he forced them to evolve. Bungie, if Destiny’s future is about going beyond Light and Dark, bring back the first Guardian who tried. Bring back Rezyl Azzir. Bring back Dredgen Yor. Let us face the Eternal Abyss.