Bungie made a mistake with Marathon marketing saying it's not FOR Destiny players... It was a mistake and I still think that. But it wasn't wrong. In fact, I'll argue it further. And that's why D2 needs to die. Destiny 2 isn't for Destiny players. I want a complete wipe now. Destiny's Dark Future needs to feel & function like a brand-new game. Otherwise, entitled players will never stop asking for D1. They'll never let the developers iterate. And those players need to be purged. Our Ghosts need to die. We need layered systems for limitations, beyond just cooldowns and mod energy. Weighting... and literal weighting, stamina... heat... we're seeing some of the precursors. The idea that you can use whatever you want for ANYTHING needs to go. *Pew Pew* add clear for endgame... "[I don't want to think... crack a bruski and run raids]". **** THAT! That's NOT endgame. And part of Bungie's accountability was subsidizing those delusions and entitlement for nearly a decade. And they had to balance the loot per those delusions... so it sucked, for a long time... Now it doesn't & the game is a complete joke respective difficulty... And people are still asking for D1, lol. And people are still ****in' about RnG drops. And somehow the game is still too hard. The new Destiny should not BE for Destiny players. @Bungie... don't say it though, just do it 👀. 😇👍💠 I'm excited for Oct/Nov. I'm kinda in this place, the update in June doesn't matter to me... I wouldn't even do it. I want the reset. And I love my Compact Defenders. Wipe it all, even the heat weapons. I don't want any loot refreshes in June (save that for the next expansion)... I don't want any carryover. I'd shelve Pantheon. @Bungie... if you allow carryover, it will never stop. Into the Dark... should be completely dark. Cosmetics maybe... Into the Light was great, RotN was good... none of that loot has value. Why do Dungeon and Raid loot refreshes for nothing? Waste time and resources for something that will not satisfy the playerbase, it won't bring in new players. And where's the space for it? @Bungie... more of a rant than feedback, more... [b]"STAY the course".[/b] Now you might say, I thought you said there are systems in Marathon that will be familiar. I did. If you enjoy the good, can separate out the bad without equivocation... When I say Destiny 2 isn't for Destiny players... it's more nuanced than the statement may be interpreted. As was the statement Ziegler made about Marathon. Here's the true problem with live service. A game shouldn't be made for peoples' fïçkle desires. You make a great game... service it, & **** off with your BK entitlement philosophy to "get it your way". The guy that trained Gordon Ramsay... Chef, kicked people out of his restaurants every night. He hustled entitled millionaires trying to leverage their meaningless prestige. @Bungie/@Sony... that's how you should run Destiny. Like Pierre. A restaurant is communal much like a game... I'm sure many of us have experienced or seen how an entitled customer can destroy those vibes. And that's why he threw people out every night. That's the nuance behind, Destiny 2 isn't for Destiny players. Marathon isn't for Destiny players. And Destiny's Dark Future... should NOT be made for Destiny players. Feedback for inspiration... feedback as an alarm system, sometimes. Not design via Feedback... that will never work. Making every customer or vocal minorities... Chef... That includes my feedback, btw. I'm not giving myself an exemption. Data points for analysis not direction. I may say 'do this', write confidently... not a prescription. You design and develop the game @Bungie/@Sony. I've never been confused about that. So, make it. I'm behind you 👻... call me Casper. Make your game, and you'll make money. Destiny to be the best game possible. NOT for... anything else. Within the scope of economic realities of course.