Other than the rocket pulse rifles, all tier 5 weapons are useless in high end content. I thought this was an FPS game and not an ability spamming game. So why gives us all new tier 5 weapons with Renegades when all those weapons are so weak in high end content. I remember the old days when you would use a Scott rifle in Gms or an AR and cause decent damage. Now, Gm builds are all ability oriented and I find it boring bc weapons are no longer viable in high end content anymore. I no longer see a reason to continue farming weak tier 5 weapons when I can use double specials and abilities, which I find boring and mind numbing . I farmed for the crucible SMG for like 3 days and never got one to drop after the weekly reset. Before you would play 3 competitive matches and you would get the weapon....I don't understand why now is RNG based. Is bad enough you have to wait so long to find a match just to be disappointed bc it does not drop... I also end up losing 90% of the matches bc PVP is so garbage right now. I will not play that garbage again! I was recently invited to a Bungie focus group and couldn't think of a reason to go other than the $200 dollars they offered. But than I thought.....I'm trying to quit this game, not continue playing.