I enjoy both Destiny and The Division. Truth be told 1.4 was a decent attempt at fixing the game, however..... Console micro stutter is still a thing. Pure Shotgun Meta so kinda like Destiny , or more like Destiny Unevolved... We need to wait for patch 1.5 to fix. UI BUGS such as low fps while in inventory, more broken skills, and ingame voice chat had to be disabled to reduce the lag while in dz... it's still there though. That being said the open world and loot improvements were steps in the right direction... Maybe when 3 years in they will almost get it right?