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Edited by Kreis:
7/28/2015 2:55:26 PM
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Re-Buff Auto Rifles Completely! Poll.
So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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I don't even use auto rifles, but they are pathetic now. They should have never been nerfed.
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mos def.....
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2 RepliesARs aren't shit, I use them and I do really well, Bungie didn't ruin them but actually, they balanced them!
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BUNGIE need to do something, as the ridiculousness of the Thorn is an utter piss take!!!! There is nothing in the game to counter it or its vastly OP Burn!
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2 RepliesNext time put a "buff by half" option.
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I ranked 2 characters through Iron Banner and was only killed 5 or so times by AR's [u]in total[/u] which is shameful. No one is using them at all.. Bungie need to restore them to how they were pre last nerf. Also, I hope they refrain from nerfing all other weapon classes to bring them in line with AR's, otherwise we'll all be throwing rocks at each other if this trend continues!
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NOT COMPLETELY
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least do the exotics hard light needs a hell of a buff!
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Edited by SuckSqzBangBlow: 5/5/2015 10:37:40 AMTl;dr but you guys realise saying "I could care less" means you actually do care somewhat. By saying "I couldn't care less" you imply that 0 -blam!-s are given.
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Feedback
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1 ReplyEdited by SaberFusion1: 5/5/2015 9:42:35 AMWhy isnt there a option for bringing ARs to par with PRs? Completely restoring ARs make them too good compared to PLs again. Just a little damage buff is all thats needed. Suros did 36 per headshot, now its 32 or 31? IB AR needs something more than general AR buff. Its garbage no matter what perks you get to it. Necro is about the same. Its explosion perk should happen from every crit kill since its worse than firefly anyway.
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1 Replydo you mean couldn't care less or " could care less," ?
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Auto rifles make you bad. Nerfing them is only making everyone smarter and ruining that game for me
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8 RepliesEdited by Unicronic: 5/5/2015 9:18:11 AMPrimary weapons are unbalanced now. Hand cannons are too effective.
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I've said for a while that the buff to pulse rifles was needed, but the amount if nerf to the auto rifles was excessive. If you buff the autos back to their former (or close to their former) stats, they would be on par with the pulse rifles. I still keep my Shadow Price handy. Still my favorite primary weapon, but to competitive I'm forced to only use her on the very large maps. Anything smaller and it's suicide. Bungie, bring back our autos!
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I ran a damage test on the Archon in Restoration mission with Hard Light, Red Death, Thorn, and MIDA. I based "highest damage" on how fast I completed the mission (darkness zone only). I went for as many precision shots as possible and I ran with my titan (no gunslinger trance / chain buff) Fastest completion time was: Thorn Longest completion time was: Hard light Thorn took 10 seconds fewer to compete.
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Sounds like a group of angry princesses to me
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I couldn't* care less
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They should buff the damage to 5%
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They need a damage buff that is all..
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They need a buff, just enough to compete with pulses and hand cannons.
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I hope they actually change assault rifles and rebalance them properly, hopefully by the way of a precision damage buff, rather than reverting to a previous 1.1.1 state. I want to be able to use high RoF/low impact autos as a means of CQC deadliness rather than getting spat on by literally every other gun in the game. And that archtype was underwhelming even before the AR nerf. It makes no sense to me that guns like the Necrochasm already have poor damage output (and poor DPS) despite a better rate of fire, while also receiving a range and stability loss. Why should i have to fight against a gun for it to perform well? Auto rifles should be a general purpose weapon, and just like everything else in this game Bungie deems worth rewarding, its through head shots, so they need that precision multiplier of x1.5 back. Whether or not the damage should be changed after that. I can't say since I can't crunch those numbers. Either way, they currently have no place in PvE or PvP at the moment, and that needs to change.
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Just buff auto rifles to have a competitive DPS and leave the game alone.
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I wreck with suros on twilight gap
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Yeah make HARD LIGHT a decent weapon ,,, I used to use that and the Up for anything ,but they are no use now ,
