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Edited by Kreis:
7/28/2015 2:55:26 PM
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Re-Buff Auto Rifles Completely! Poll.
So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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Bump lol never forget
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2 RepliesNcbump.
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1 ReplyBump.
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i do agree they should be buffed slightly. i dont agree with the logic that because x weapon has a two shot three shot head shot kill they should be buffed. Auto rifle isnt a precision weapon. It is very forgiving for missing a couple shots vs missing shots with the weapons you compared them with. also the crit modifer is very low. In keeping with the original design. I would rather see larger magazines on them than anything. A little more range would help as well. since they arent very accurate at range unless bursting. Necrochasm is an excellent example of a potentially good ar that suffers from low range and small clip.
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1 ReplyEdited by SubjectBosco: 5/6/2015 7:00:28 PM[quote]First Edit: Do any of you veteran players still have your Shadow Price? I remember how well I used to do with it. I would love to use it in the upcoming House of Wolves DLC and not have it completely suck. [/quote] Amen to that! I loved my Shadow Price, and would definitely bring it up to 365 if they buff ARs.
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1 ReplyEdited by CapnMark: 5/6/2015 7:21:23 PMYes! I miss my Vanquisher
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1 ReplyToo many edits to take seriously.
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I think each "elite" weapon should be able to compete with one another, and hand cannons are WAY stronger at almost any range than the ARs, but I still win some matchups with a suros vs hand cannon. I think the main problem with the AR nerf is that the range isn't there anymore, so most people use a different primary and roll with a shotgun. Then Bungie changed the Crucible ammo cause everyone started using the shotgun. I think it's time to put a bit more impact and range back into the elite "exotic" ARs. Does anyone use Hard Light? And it doesn't count if it's the only exotic primary you have lol.
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bump. let's keep this post on page one.
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14 RepliesThey nerfed damage by what 2.5%? 1.5% re-buff I think would do the trick. Started another thorn bounty last night and was using Atheons epilogue. True it's a marshmallow shooter, but was doing okay.
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Where is the buff them but don't return them to the state where they totally outclass the other weapons
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See......when you say completely, that concerns me. Suros was nerfed for a reason
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Buffs create options and adds more variety. Nerfs just limit us to using the same specific load outs. Buff ARs they should have never been nerfed the last time around.
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I think they are still valid. The problem isnt gun classes thought its specific guns. Auto rifles take the least skill to use over all so if they aren't as good at medium to long range than that's fine by me. However certain exotics do need nerfs
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1 ReplyBungie's silence on this is starting to get on my nerves. Anyone saw how the entire studio laughed when triplewreck made a nod on the uselessness of the autos ? I mean, everyone knew what he was referring to. Seems like by now its some sort of a running joke at Bungie ?..
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They never needed to nerf ARs They just needed to buff pulse rifles so there would be more other guns being used.
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Edited by SpongyMallard7: 5/6/2015 3:49:36 PMMy New Monarchy AR and my For The People AR are pretty good in Crucible. Field Scout+Persistence=beast I don't think they should be all the way re-buffed, but maybe just a little.
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Sure.
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Was hoping the new patch would fix them. Suros is my favorite gun, i need it to be somewhat useful again :(
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2 RepliesI still use up for anything plenty and autos have been my main since launch, it still shreds, I think it's well balanced. I think Suros is still fantastic. I think take this post and shove it up your ass.
