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originally posted in:Spears of Destiny
Edited by NEWBIE: 10/18/2014 12:33:22 AM
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DeeJ I am now convinced Bungie is suicidal with this patch!

Edit: Congrats everyone we were successful (at least in part) Please read Bungie's newest announcement here http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295 DeeJ, I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was a good little fanboy, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie! With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was a level 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!) Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve. This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it. Edit: Some sort of response from Bungie would be greatly appreciated, so DeeJ if you read this drop us a line, I am sure everyone is more interested on what you have to say than they are in what I have said, I for one await your response eagerly, even if you just say "I read this" Thanks. Edit: Day 3: Bungie, DeeJ, Your silence is becoming deafening.....

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  • It's not often I want to use the report function to honor someone else. In-game, they have that feature. This is the second time I've wanted to use the honor report ability on the forums. Also would like a Mail Directly to Deej's Inbox button. This had better be read in front of a whole board of Bungie devs, and get them to get their act together. I was a fangirl once... but I just can't take this anymore. Being punished for playing the game. If I'm not supposed to be playing it, Bungie, what else am I supposed to be doing? Not playing? Okay, if you say so, but I don't see how this helps your business...

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    • In the world of Destiny: Screw you guys and your Lamborghini's. My Ford Taurus is just as good. Bungie, please. Let exotics stay exotic.

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    • bump!

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    • Bungie should play Borderlands 2 to see what leveling and exotic weapons should feel like. To be clear, I really enjoy most of what Destiny has to offer. I feel that they've missed the mark on what is going to encourage long term gameplay however. In any game that requires this kind of time investment, you need a tangible reward. That usually comes by providing your players with a sense of progression (power). The restrictions placed on higher level characters in lower level areas and nerfing high end gear negates this sensation. Before long you have a group of people asking "why am I doing this? What is it doing for me?" If there is no reasonable answer (a compelling story for example), expect them to move on to something else.

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    • Dumb...the whole thing was just to bitch about the Vex Mythoclast being nerfed lol That gun was super OP in PVP, why can't you people that abused it until it was patched realize this. You like having unfair advantages I guess.

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      • I've never had the Vex Mythoclast and agree with this post. Bring back my Suros stability too!

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      • Ithe mythoclast was earned in pve and should stay there. Nothing earned in pve should be allowed in pvp period

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      • Amen. Someone give this guy a cookie or something. I'm a long time MMO-er and everything you said above is true. Surprised you didn't say anything about Xur and his shenanigans. Grinding for DAYZ just to have him sell the same gear I had a nerdgazm over in the Crucible. It's almost like Bungie was psyched about this game, began developing it, and then half of their employees died and left three DEV guys and a janitor to finish it up, and have been reactionary to ALL THE WRONG STUFF. "You want my Mythoclast? Take it. Here ya go. I'll even throw in a BJ, just PLEASE FOR EFFS SAKE GIVE US SOME FRICKIN STUFF TO DO". But yeah, what this guy said. Totes.

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        • Thank you for this post! This has been put best, right here! If they [Bungie] keep listening to the casual gamers instead of the hardcore fans they've had for years, Destiny will NOT be their next 10 year game series. It won't even make it a year!

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        • Best article I've read so far in a otherwise pretty deppressive and offensive forum. Constructive criticism is always gonna beat cursing and screaming your lungs up. Big word up on the article!

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        • Seriously, there needs to be a giant damn built between PvP and PvE so I can stop getting my socks soaked by PvPkids' tears.

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        • Bummmpp

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        • Still no bungie reply. Amazing.

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        • The mythoclast needed a nerf. Yes. Then mythoclast needed to be like every other gun. No. Its needs half its power back. I don't have it and I am not bitching about it. Give the mythoclast back to the people who earned it.

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        • BUMPPITTY BUMP... if you read this bump it

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        • Bump

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        • Edited by TalonsEdge: 10/16/2014 7:59:51 PM
          Bump... Here is a link to another large topic on this same forum here discussing this general issue. Anyone who is reading this topic please take a moment to go vote on the Petition poll on the topic I link here. There are over 3000 votes there already. NEWBIE's topic here and that topic are 2 of the largest ones on the forum discussing this issue now and we have not seen an official response from bungie yet.. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72904216/0/0

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          • Bumpity

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          • Nicely said.... And where are my sparrow races...

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          • I haven't done the raid yet but I agree with you.

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          • [spoiler]i totaly agree 100%[/spoiler]

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          • Dont even have the Mythoclast and I completely agree. I dont feel the need to do some of the harder crap because its not different enough from the crap I can buy from the tower. I want a reward for my time and dont mind if I am on the receiving end of a true exotic. I will respect it, the wielder and the process to get it. Otherwise why call it exotic?

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          • Well said. I'm fighting the urge of taking this game back to gamestop. There is no more incentive for me to be doing VOG since they're going to Nerf the -blam!- out of weapons. There's no reason for us to play how we do. Doubt they'll get anymore money out of me at this point.

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          • Well said

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          • I've come to the realization that Bungie has no business in the MMO genre. They balance this game like they are still balancing Halo's multiplayer, making every change to please PvP players without giving any regard to the PvE crowd. The raid has been rendered useless with the Vex nerf. There is no point in it at all now.

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          • I do now my head in respect everytime I see a guardian with the mythoclass, you're right it takes a lot of work to get that blessed thing. But when I'm in PVP I fear that thing! Power should be power unless you're in the iron banner when power isn't quite power because bungie don't think it's fair, even though they said iron banner was about power........

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