Great read, I hope it helps someone else struggling with bullies. I had a bully when I was in middle school, about the same age as 8/9th grade I think. It's a relatively long story but I don't have ages to type it all out <.< The summary is - He picked on me for ages, I put up with it until one day when he shoved me for the last time. Foot behind his leg and open palm to his sternum. The behemoth dropped like a sack of potatoes and spent a while struggling to get up (Lardy bastard) although I did ensure he stayed down for a little longer <.< I found it quite amusing, he thought picking on the quiet sciency kid would be easy or fun but thank shrek I'd done karate for a few years. The look on his face when I decked him was priceless. He didn't bully anyone after that, which is why I tend to lean towards more violent solutions for bullies. Smack the little shits so hard that their mother is going to cry for them, then they learn their lesson not to -blam!- around with other people for fun. Pavlov conditioning, at it's simplest :D