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6/28/2022 12:16:44 AM
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Resetting trials cards needs to be addressed

The past few weeks, trials has been plagued by 3 stacks who just spam reset on 6 wins or 20+ win streak carries. They just his 6 wins and reset their card to stay in the flawless pool even though they have won the past 10+ games. It can be super frustrating to get to 5-6 wins and have your hard earned card ruined by people you have no right matching into. Now I'm no designer so these may no be the best fixes but I feel I at least need to give some input on the situation. Lets say if someone wins 7-8 games in a row they're put in the flawless pool regardless of card progress. I know this isn't even as issue to a lot of people but to people like me who only really care about a weekly flawless or for the people -blam!- struggle in trials (who the flawless pool is directly supposed to help) it can be super demoralizing and can put you off of playing trials for the week altogether. These people are only playing trials to pad their stats and to gatekeep other people and I would really appreciate this being addressed.

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  • Id love to go flawless and Im aware my kd is bad, those 500 deaths I took to help my clan get mountaintop hurt lol. Im 52 years old still trying to get good and hopelessly failing, Ive had my moments where I get 25 kills in a match and Im happy but it would be nice if youve already earned flawless and got the gear you need to step out of the arena or help a needs to get good but is to old to do it a chance at flawless instead of being in there just to stroke your ego by beating lesser players like me.

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  • So you're upset that you cant beat another team. You either win or lose and you're looking for the middle ground called participation trophies.

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      Cater to casuals! - old

      The only answer is strict sbmm…. Make those pesky sweaties earn that loot :)

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      • [quote]The past few weeks, trials has been plagued by 3 stacks who just spam reset on 6 wins or 20+ win streak carries. They just his 6 wins and reset their card to stay in the flawless pool even though they have won the past 10+ games. It can be super frustrating to get to 5-6 wins and have your hard earned card ruined by people you have no right matching into. Now I'm no designer so these may no be the best fixes but I feel I at least need to give some input on the situation. Lets say if someone wins 7-8 games in a row they're put in the flawless pool regardless of card progress. I know this isn't even as issue to a lot of people but to people like me who only really care about a weekly flawless or for the people -blam!- struggle in trials (who the flawless pool is directly supposed to help) it can be super demoralizing and can put you off of playing trials for the week altogether. These people are only playing trials to pad their stats and to gatekeep other people and I would really appreciate this being addressed.[/quote] So its demoralizing to lose? Okay so is it fair that because that player is better then you they are forced into a smaller pool that has much more sweaty matches? Well to you its fair because you never have to actually play games in it. If you cant handle losing 1 game and resetting then you are in the wrong mode because losing is part of PvP

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        • Flawless pool hurts good players, at the benefit of bad ones. This lowers the bar for flawless which just devalues it to good players. Loot is also grindable so people don’t have much reason not to farm matches. Adept Trials loot should feel worth the time investment but it just doesn’t to a good player, crafting worsened this issue. A solution would need to reward people for their skill, I don’t see anything else getting the best out of people competitively.

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          • trials needs a new name. it is no longer trials anymore.

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          • Destiny fun police is a prime example of this , check his trials report for proof

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          • Edited by I am kevin: 6/28/2022 12:37:57 PM
            Ill spit out the facts for you. Bungie monitor the reset strat in de beginning weeks of the flawless pool and notis that about 2% of the player base is doing this. Remember this 2% of the player base that played trials aka about 300k ppl play trials each weekend. This means that 6000 players are doing this. When the flawless pool is the player base each hour is about 12.000 players. If you devide the world player base true 3 times zones this will leave you with 2000 players in the pool of 12.000 players at max that are doing this. I know this might sound hard to you but bungie is giving you 5/1 change of not matching the ppl. In a pool that is questionable there in hope you get your semi hard earn loot of going flawless, because let’s be honest you’re waiting for the decent players to be gone so in this participating erra we life in you think you intitled to get flawless.. what happens you don’t not only to the fact that bungie tryde to help you untill the odds are 5/1 to get flawless they even added solo q playlist. So the odds of matching a stacked are more non existent and you should be able to get flawless no excuses. And you still complain. What about we add sbmm but only match you especially you only with worse enemies.. would you be happy then… here I’ll make a suggestion add a great player ask him if he would be able to help you get better or to play trials with him once in a while show a little character talk to those guys and they will be down to help you but stop crying.

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            • Everyone deserves the flawless. Putting people who win 7 games in a row in the flawless pool regardless of flawless will do more harm than good. You are literally trying to make people who are better than you want to sit idle. Let me spell it out for you buttercup, it's trials. It's hard. It's sweaty. That's the entire philosophy behind the gamemode. Do you know how many 6 win cards I had to throw away to get flawless? You think I am whining that the sweat lord that beats me should be given as much handicaps as possible? No. You both had access to trials, gatekeeping is not an argument. Resetting is not a legitimate strategy. Only 2% does this. This is the result of the flawless pool. You wanted it, this is the result of it. However self reflection and improvement seems to be not in your repertoire from what I can gather. Reset and do better.

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              • Bungie did address it. They said its not that common. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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              • Edited by sum12mezzwith: 6/28/2022 3:07:44 PM
                Wait so its alright for you to win games but not the ones that beat you or the ones you've won against. You're alllope y ⁷

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                • What about your 5-6 wins? Doesn't that demoralize the other teams? In PvP gamemodes, someone has to win, someone has to lose. For you to go flawless, you have to beat 7 other teams and ruin their chance to go flawless. Sorry, there are no participation trophies.

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                • It's not gatekeeping. By literal definition. You both had access to trials, you both loaded in, they won and you didn't. The resetting is less than 2% or whatever bungies figure was, and is a result of the flawless pool that you people cling to. Remove flawless pool and it'll go away

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