[quote]Ayo, Seen lots of "remove PvP from the game" recently. Personally disagree with this, I don't see any value or logic at all in removing it. So, I wanted to see what your reasons are for removing PvP, and I want you to try convince me, or vice versa.[/quote] Pvp should be a seperate game, all gear transfers but not a part of the tasks or the game is pve at all. Except gambit. It's alright when the power level isn't way off kilter. I know there are system mods out there, making people move faster and doing way more damage. Seen it today. Warlock doing 3 times the moves I'm allowed to do

Shouldn't go anywhere, BUT they need to put some much needed work into it. matchmaking for sure, the on going matches is getting old very quick especially against clans basically every match matched with randoms that will not play the objective

I like PvP and there is little to no way Bungie is gonna remove it.

[quote]Ayo, Seen lots of "remove PvP from the game" recently. Personally disagree with this, I don't see any value or logic at all in removing it. So, I wanted to see what your reasons are for removing PvP, and I want you to try convince me, or vice versa.[/quote] Without pvp the content would improve, the guns would stay THIER original strengths, the exotics would actually work. They're would be more time for great pve content Pve mattered in d1. But when they made my guns useless like the fateBringer and the mythoclast only to re earn them they ran off half the guardians. Mistakes makes low gamer base makes f2p occur out of failure to make content with paying$60 for in the first place. I love destiny, somebody in charge of decisions that force our gaming labor to increase without new rewards or balance needs to be out of a job

[quote]Ayo, Seen lots of "remove PvP from the game" recently. Personally disagree with this, I don't see any value or logic at all in removing it. So, I wanted to see what your reasons are for removing PvP, and I want you to try convince me, or vice versa.[/quote] Make pvp good again like in d1, make raids easier but funner, most d1 stuff is better except the hd. But it plays good. The raids were definately better. The rewards were better. Some things have been upgraded to a better choice and convenient way. The glow was cool the srl was cool. Archon priest, some strikes were way better, everything to do with orux and crota was cooler.