Solar is fine Void needs some help

Solar Warlock doesn’t need any adjustments. What needs adjustments is the void class.

[quote]Solar warlock is easily bested by other subs especially other classes solar tree. The masive nerf Warlock got from D1 to D2 is just imense, more especially when sunbracer cannot give a extra stack of gernade like before for what ive heard, in adition to the extra gernade stack being given to arc titan and remove from solar warlock. Their already a couple hundred post that explain the imense nerf warlock got expecially solar and how it needs a buff if not a complete overhaul up to this point. Were talking both pve and pvp here. Were talking about fact here and actual gameplay not random junky streamers who randomly promote warlock as a s tier and almost the only calss the use is hunter or titan. Math is Math, you canot promote Warlock to be S tier by literly because some streemer who does not know first how the class even works, and its not even his main, and is the lest use class. Titans literly have better mellee, better super, better class ability and even better gernade then warlock, the same aplies to Hunter. Both Hunter and Titan has a fully fleshed out tree and exoticts. Especialy when it comes to jumps and calss abilities also consistency and speed titan an hunter will domintae warlock, in adition of titan and hunter having far more aoe and instakills range. When comparing super dawnblade and even the rest of the class is inferioir to both titan and hunter I will not give to much detail so i wont sound rebaundaut since evrybody know what they do. So ill talk in a genral perspective. In Supers Warlock has no way to be consistant even with choas reach (witch is the most consistant and esencially best in Warlock) a titan can fly in like nothing thanks to beam not insta killing and rek the Warlock with a punch especially in behemoth witch can mellee fly and damage resistance is broken in behemoth, when chaos reach activate warlock need to be on spot on when aiming and even so people like titans or hunter with gg can just strait run and shred the guy and thats the best super with dps or damage in warlock the most acurate and precise with highest cotrol. Atunment of The Sky has no scating as promoted, strafe jump in both hunter a titan can literly go as fast as doing the icarus dash and jump mess especially hunter with stompies. In Void warping is very hard and inprecise and need very good skill y use and yet you still get easily killed. On class ability titan and hunter are far superior in both activation speed and efectivness, even more if you combine alpha lupi with titan witch imediantly restores health. On Titan and Hunter are superioir then warlock and has insane control direction when it comes to strafe also speed that warlock one you glide in warlock if you did it wrong you die like literly. Warlock glide is litery a turtle unless you do some extreme monuvering with burst jump x icarus dash. Titan And Hunter super are more flesh out and have difrent abilities while warlock can only just spam attack button and ( warp only if you have stormtrance top tree arc and middle three nova warp ) and its still very defective and hard to control while titan can literly fly with just a mellee. Titan And Hunter Can instakill with any super hit even barly a hit (withount hiting you exacly directly) with more area of effec and higher damage then warlock ll warlock supers needs extreme precision and aiming the same aplies to there abilities. A clear example is dawnblade witch does at most 206 damage on a body shot and can not kill another super in one shot unless it perfectly hits in the middle and you use fame streak from bottom tree if flame streak activate because even with a hit it some times do not activate. Nova bomb is better and choase reach but chaos locks you in place and end up needing the same precision while ofering more dps, nova bomb ofers more imediante damage but yeah you got one shot and if you miss welp by super. Tiatn And Hunter have more forgiving abilities if you make a mistake warlock does not, matter a fact not only warlock involves in some ssacrifce like gernade for rising hit you must be flaless and fast with it. warlock especially in pvp an somtimes in pve must be flaless and execute evrything flalessly because there no room for mistakes if you miss your most likly to die in aditionally to consuming a abikity especially gernade and even mellee atunment of flame need to exacly calculate the damage since it dosent insta kill to even have a benefit at all you already need your oponent at half shield or less, and the burn is just uff bad. pheonix dive is just horible when in super it need a dignificant buff. and warlock abilities casting is just very slow you must time evrthing, aim evrything and execute evrthing flalessly, especially atunment of the sky witch uses air control. the abilities wont help you much since there bare minimum usefull not helpfull.[/quote] You’re not even high enough to experience how warlocks, specifically solar warlocks, perform in the end game. Pro tip: really well. Maybe play more of the game.

Top tree dawn is among the best overall subclasses in the game for pvp, with the best movement ability we’ve ever seen for pve and pvp (when used correctly) and amazing neutral game. Middle tree is a staple of endgame pve content for obvious reasons and has its place in pvp too. Bottom tree is the only one that could use some buffs All in all, you’re smoking

No. I could see an argument for nova warp or storm trance, but Dawnblade is S-tier with top tree in PvP and mid tree in PvE

If anything Voidwalker needs a buff. I miss the shatter Nova from D1. You could control the angle and cone spread of the three way split of the Super. Nova in D1 was one of the best "shutdown supers". Now it's too slow (bottom tree) and underpowered (top tree). Warlocks need an exotic or an option to give Voidwalkers shatter nova.

this made me lose several brain cells, couldn’t read the whole thing as i ran out

I main warlock and solar warlocks don’t need buffs, at least not top tree and mid tree. I could argue bottom tree solar needs a buff, that tree has nothing going for it in terms of neutral game. Void warlocks all suck, chaos reach is perfect but top stormcaller sucks.

Attunement of Flame is the one with all the issues. And while Grace is excellent for its neutral game the Well can be rather lacking at times.