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Edited by Tenor:
3/1/2021 7:12:10 PM
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Shotguns are Rampant, Snipers/Fusion rifles need love (PvP)
Shotguns are overused, overperforming, and in the case of Felwinters, overpowered. Shotguns were a go to choice for many players even before the nerfs to snipers and fusions. While they are usable, they are not fun to use. With snipers, one SMG bullet from across the map will send your reticle to the sky box. And since they nerfed the aim assist theres no leeway. Trying to play aggressively will only get you killed. With snipers now there seems to be only one playstyle: sit in the back and hardscope. Fun. Fusions are just shotguns with a wind up, which makes them objectively worse. Shotguns are too easy to use for how powerful they are. They fit into almost any loadout way too well, and because of the close range nature of almost all pvp maps, there's never a reason to swap. But they are too inconsistent to nerf.
Revert the sniper flinch nerf and the fusion rifle nerf. Make sure quickdraw never appears on a shotgun again.
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Lmao I this post is at 0 upvotes, but I know it has way more. The massive army of braindead felwinters crutch users are afraid to lose the only thing that makes them competitive
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1 Reply100% agree snipers didn't deserve a nerf
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2 RepliesFusions are in a great spot right now and are a good counter to felwinters as well as 120's at the right distance, my eye of sol is just as cracked as it was so whatever they did to snipers didn't really effect my aim on it, idk man try using different load outs and see what works, side arms are also quite effective right now.
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I love how you state a fact and the shotgun abusers down vote this to hell lol.
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Edited by NoBuenoJuice: 3/4/2021 11:17:15 AMJust dont give the fusion that erentil treatment back in the days. That thing could one shot you across the map lol.
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Fusions are way to strong in my opinion but snipers need a buff because all crucible will be is shotguns
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1 ReplyWhat you talking about shotguns and hang cannons are literally the 10 most used weapons in PvP. That's a fact.
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1 Replyanyone that thinks snipers and fusions need a buff are clearly bad with them.
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Fusions with the slight buff to range feel good right now, like where they should be. Can sometimes pull off great shots with them again. Snipers? 🤷🏼♂️ need to play with them more to know. They’re more of a quick scope ambush gun now instead of being able to hard lane with them.
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1 ReplyFusion rifles definitely do not need a buff. The o key thing that needs changing is felwinters removed and the maps slightly bigger. Once again FUSION RIFLES DO NOT NEED A BUFF Have you Mfs played against glaciocasm
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Snipers are fine now you don’t get as much freebie headshots when getting shot at..last seasons fusion rifle is a beast if a person put the effort in and grind a pvp role..I have a clan mate with a erentil with well over 3k kills with it..max range..it melts people..
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2 RepliesI am playing almost only fusion rifle and I have to say, being able to use high impact fusion rifle properly makes you so powerful against people that only use shotguns. Not gonna lie, fusion rifles are such a powerful choice.
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Edited by SirHeadPoppington: 3/4/2021 12:26:50 AMYes. Special weapons in general are overused though. Also fusions are not objectively worse than shotguns, they have more range. They can actually counter shotguns.
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5 RepliesNo more QuickDraw on shotguns and incur a Handling penalty when and after sliding
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Edited by an Ape with a d2 addiction: 3/3/2021 11:53:21 AMHow is felwinters overpowered? Genuine question. Compared to a max range quickdraw opening shot aggressive frame? Can you spin it as an outlier? Take it a step further. Remove QD and snapshot from all special weapons. Make handling actually matter for once as a stat so folks cant always go all in on range. Disable scavengers in pvp. Spawn with 2 ammo. Make only primary kills drop more special in pvp. So special isnt the primary and primary isnt the secondary. Also imagine not being able to consistently outduel primaries with a sniper. Imagine having to, what was it? Yeh, [i]getting the first shot off with a sniper.[/i] Not being able to play aggressive with mediocre aim. Having to play long ranges. With a sniper. A long range gun, alleged(TM). Not like 131 - 158 damage on a bodyshot's overtuned at all either. On a [i]precision [/i]gun. Imagine having to consider using a primary in this game. [spoiler]This is all PC / mnkb. No idea how console / stick platforms play in the context.[/spoiler]
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Shotguns are fine in the way of range but consistency for other shotguns need work.
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4 RepliesNot shotguns, movement. You ever notice that they RUN at you, they have lots of ways to close the distance with stasis and such, movement needs nerf.
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4 RepliesAm I the only one who would rather die to a shotgun than fusion rifle? I feel like everything is in a good place right now if anything just nerf range a little on shotguns
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7 RepliesNo. Snipers were vastly over used and too easy for their effectiveness. Snipers are finally being used effectively by the skill they require. I know, cuz I’m trash and I have WAY too many kills on my revoker to be completely honest.
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i totaly agree i seriously thinkl that linear fusions should be made into spefciall weapons and shotguns and 120s are crazy nuts
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3 RepliesThey should simply go back to special ammo crate system. Or you just get 2 rounds period.
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They need a handling cap - just a QD nerf would do little as Cammy cakes made clear in a video on it. They need to restore the Special competition - undo Sniper nerf, restore Backup Planbbut undo the range buff, buff Sidearms some. They need to fix the ammo economy so they can't be mained. Opening shot needs to be looked at too. When it's near 1 in 4 of all kills they should tackle the issue. They highlight Felwinters but that just obscures the real issues. When that's nerfed it'll just be business as usual - Astral Horizon, CQC, etc. Nothing will have been fixed. NOTHING.
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29 RepliesFusions are fine the way they are. Shotties I dunno how you fix a gun that’s supposed to do just that job, be a hard fix.
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sniper flinch nerf this season wasn’t necessary, but I feel like specials are overall in a good spot. Maybe shotguns have a bit too much range with how fast everybody is now, but I feel like that’s more of a player mobility issue over a shotgun range issue.
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The funny fellwinter vs this persons mental capacity
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13 RepliesJust remove Quickdraw and Opening Shot from shotguns...
