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9/20/2020 10:30:23 PM
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weighted drops (truthteller is very rare)

I've never been one to conspire about loot drops or 'the algorithm' but this seems a little fishy. I've been chasing a god roll truthteller (breach loaded gl available in the world pool) and the rate at which it drops is questionable. I've turned in thousands of vanguard tokens, gunsmith materials, and legendary shards, and received [i]every single available weapon and armor piece[/i] besides truthteller. Multiple times. I'll bet I've obtained every world pool drop 50 times, and truthteller has dropped MAYBE 5 times. Could it be bad luck? Maybe, but the fact that I've received [u]every other[/u] weapon available in the pool dozens of times raises a red flag. Does anyone else experience this?

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  • Edited by acerspades1: 9/23/2020 2:01:33 PM
    Did you equip the Glowhoo shader? [spoiler]those who know, know[/spoiler]

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    • That's my most common drop. If anything needs an adjustment it's the prophecy dungeon. The ikelos hand cannon, sword, and rocket have a much lower drop rate than the armor, smg, sniper and ikelos shotgun.

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    • Just pray to RNGesus

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    • I got one with auto loading and QuickDraw so Sucks to suck

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    • I am beginning to think that the crucible catalysts are a myth, or that I have been blacklisted from receiving one.

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      • Edited by SScottF 2112: 9/23/2020 12:10:50 AM
        Not lately, but on another account back in the Antiope meta my first two characters could never get Antiope. Same as you, I had about every other gunsmith weapon. I finally started a 3rd character and he got it on about his first Gunsmith package. That was weird

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      • I have a god roll according to light.gg and little light.

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      • Everybody should get past the false believe that RNG is the problem, it is not. Bungie tune the algorithm to give players what they think players should receive or deserve. All the RNG does is create a result in a sample space what happens next is entirely down to the structure of the reward algorithm. Bungie could stop all repeats instantly by having a simple rule that RNG results are disregarded if the result is already in you inventory and it continues to run until it creates a new result that you do not have. On a positive note I am convinced that the algorithm looks at your past play and occasionally tries to help by dropping something you should look at carefully as it's just what you need!

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        Blade Of The Traveler - 4/19/2024 4:55:43 AM

        And one that has spike grenades

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      • Edited by x-MISANTHROPIC-x: 9/21/2020 10:19:58 AM
        Account weighting has been in the game since D1. I'm sure many irritated players who didn't get Gjallarhorn to drop will testify.

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        • convinced there is a hidden drop modifier associated with all of our accounts similar to IV's on pokemon. For example, your truthteller experience is very different from mine as i have lost count of how many i have gotten. Yes loot is dropped based on RNG but the inconsistencies among players is far too patterned to be true rng.

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        • I think its confirmation bias + bad luck. Try not to think about it and just play the game normally. Sounds weird but worth a try.

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        • I think it’s RNG, I’m drowning in them

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        • Save your tokens. I have 3 of these guns in the vault, and I have dismantled several of them. They drop randomly from engrams and after various activities.

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        • I very rarely get either truth teller or last hope. I only recently finally got the feeding frenzy/multikill clip just 2 days ago (I still need a pvp one with rampage/rangefinder). I also have a truth teller with feeding frenzy/multikill clip/spike nades. I don’t know what the pvp roll you want for it though. Nonetheless, I find it very rare to get either of these weapons, at least in my case.

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        • I believe it’s just bad RNG. I had 3 drop in the past week from world dropped engrams.

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        • I doubt you could even imagine it; that which commanded the stars, giving life its fullest brilliance. The Elden Ring. Oh, Elden Ring! Shattered, by someone, or something. Don't tell me you don't see it. Look up at the sky! It burns.

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          lord Shaxx is Tigerman - old

          As soon as I got my god roll Orewings maul, the number of truthtellers dropping shot up. [spoiler]Yeah, it’s just rng[/spoiler]

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        • I have a bunch of those- but I need a good dire promise to drop. It just ain't dropping my God roll yet.

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        • I am with Last Perdition. Im trying to get a good one to replace the one thats getting sunset and no luck. Same thing, turned in over 10k gunsmith mats, thousands of crucible tokens. I got like 3-4 and all with garbage rolls.

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          • Confirmation bias. I get lots. I don't want them. There's a lot of gear you can get. Obviously it's going to be hard to farm for something specific when the loot table is so huge.

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          • Same. It has a very low drop rate. I have tons of the lonesome sidearm, but only about three truthteller drops. Been trying to get a good one but rng sucks.

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