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8/14/2020 1:06:55 AM
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Who? Never heard of him and give two shits about his opinion. Are autos good? Yeah, so what? I’ll say the same thing the handcannons crowd said. Git Gud scrub.
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  • Just because something is beatable doesn't mean it is balanced.

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  • Yeah. Same thing was said about HCs during their many metas. What was the response? Git Gud. So...deal with it. Just like everyone else deals with metas. Not sure why HC users feel so entitled to be the only meta

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  • 150 are too good compared to other HC. I’m. It denying that. NF and Luna’s were to good. But 600 autos take it to another level. 35-40% usage rate across all platforms and game modes. If that doesn’t say something about how ridiculous they are then I don’t even know....🤦

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  • Just because there will always be a meta doesn't mean weapons should never be adjusted, even if it's just for the sake of shaking up the meta. I don't use Hand Cannons that much. My top three most used PVP weapons are Fighting Lion, MIDA, and Antiope. Please don't assume that I'm some sweat with a death grip on my Dire Promise just because I disagree with you. "Git gud" has always seemed like a pretty pessimistic argument to me. It's essentially saying "Bungie will never be able to balance the game so they shouldn't even bother trying, and instead of holding Bungie accountable for their poor design decisions, the playerbase should just be expected to put up with them." Even if the game will never truly be balanced, I still don't consider at least aiming for something close a futile exercise, and, failing that, at least giving different weapon archetypes a time to shine.

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  • Their design decisions aren't necessarily poor - usually they just reflect a different priority than that of many pvp players.

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  • If Bungie's priority was to make Auto Rifles the best PvP primaries in the game then I'd say they need to get their priorities checked.

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  • Bungie's priorities are not centered around pvp. And most times they go there it doesn't work out well. Pvp players need to accept that Destiny is a pve game first and foremost. From the networking model to the ability and weapon ecologies it should be obvious. And if it isn't, all it takes is understanding how the game began to drive the point home. Pvp was an afterthought. https://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731 https://youtu.be/Iryq1WA3bzw It is what it is.

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  • Okay Mr 0.9

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  • wait hes 0.9 and tell ppls to git gud? LMAO

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  • That’s the Irony

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  • And?

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  • [quote]And?[/quote] If I'm not mistaken, I believe his response is equal to: [spoiler]get gud scrub[/spoiler]

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  • And?

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  • [quote]And?[/quote] And no and.

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  • Okay then.

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  • Edited by Dovahborg: 8/14/2020 2:54:21 AM
    Somebody seems offended.

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  • I don’t use 600 autos. False Promises for range, Translation Theory for cqc and usually Roar of the Bear, though I’ve been wanting to use Sleepless again. Holding up some yt dudes opinion likes it’s some end all be all fact of life is stupid. It’s just confirmation bias.

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  • Funny, last I checked. I'm sure he wasnt the only one with the option 🤔

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  • And? People share the opinion that the world is flat. Dumb -blam!-. This is what I mean. Plain confirmation bias.

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  • But there a facts to prove that the world is not flat lol same in the situation. Majority getting backed up with facts. Gotta do the math bud.

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  • Not facts, [u]evidence[/u]. Incontrovertible evidence proves the world is not flat. So it is therefore a fact that is round. You need evidence first to prove something is factually true. Come on man...think. People [i]saying[/i] certain weapons are low skill is not a fact. It’s a [u]shared opinion[/u]. A dude, or many people, on YT saying it is still opinion. You literally proved my claim of confirmation bias. You claim many people share the opinion so it therefore a fact. Exactly how the flat earth people think. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 😎

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  • Also, another "fact" is that the word "evidence" is within the definition of "fact" :)

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  • In things such as a news article/report. You used definition number 2 of [i]Google[/i] for crying out loud. What’s next, urban dictionary? Didn’t you learn not to do that in school? Miriam Webster Fact: a piece of information presented as having objective reality Evidence: something that furnishes proof How do you prove something? With evidence. Making a claim isn’t a statement of fact, it’s an opinion. One that requires evidence to be proven a fact. Ugh, the stupidity of the forums.

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  • If you insist we use Google tho, I dont mind :) proof /pro͞of/ noun 1.evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement. "you will be asked to give proof of your identity" ev·i·dence /ˈevədəns/ noun the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. "the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"

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  • There is a reason the phrase “Ignorance is bliss” exists. And none of that says a shared opinion is true. Thanks for doing my work for me. 👍

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