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5/28/2020 5:36:18 AM
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Screw your chart data just Make the game Fun

Bungie stop looking at your analytics to look for reasons to nerf things people like focus on the fun of the game i understand you need balance but your constantly touching things thar nobody complained about or nobody asks for the reload perks didnt need to get touched instead the garbage perks people dont like should have been redesigned from the ground up

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    Having more fun playing lego ninjago this week. Im 40. I am more excited to play lego harry potter than season 11. SMH bungie

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    • Do you really think Bungie listens?

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      • You know what I think? Screw balance. Let everything kill in 0.4 seconds at MOST

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        • It won’t be fun until they buff weapons classes other than hand canon/shotty so players can pick whatever weapons they want to get to Legend or Flawless. Also in Comp low ranks should not be going against Players that are unbroken or already hit Legend for the season. They need to take the players that hit Legend and match them only against other players that hit Legend. Same with Trials, go flawless for the week and your done no more. These teams go flawless 10+ times a weekend and players that are just starting get matched against these flawless teams every game from the first match on up. No one should have to go 3 or more cards with 0-5 loss every match. The problem is Bungie rewarding the best PvP players with the most OP weapons and putting them against teams that don’t have those weapons and are average players and literally wrecking there experience by blocking those players from ever going Flawless or Legend rank and will never get those weapons. All this bs does is create an environment where this OP PvP players carry players to Legend or Flawless for money which should result in banning accounts. Everyone who pays money for this game should be able to get any weapon that’s available in any activity.

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        • Bungie: We feel the game had become too enjoyable so next season will revolve around bounties and lengthy quest with repetitive steps. Additionally we feel weapons have become too strong as we never intend for them to kill enemies, so we will be reducing damage by 95% and decreasing reload speed by 200%.

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        • I wish this game was more built for fun. That’s why I play video games. Sure, I also enjoy Iron Banner. Or rather I did before they switched to the rotating tiny loot pool with lame weapon quests to make us play using dumb gear we don’t like. Where the quest too hard? Nope, but I would rather play Iron Banner with a [i]complete[/i] Iron Banner loot pool every time (or at least for the last IB of every season). Bungie seems to have ‘Bad Dungeon Master’ syndrome. Where the game master is putting themselves [i]Against the Players[/i] instead of regarding themselves as someone to [i]help[/i] the players. So every time Destiny players find a really effective way to solve a problem, besides slowly slogging through a billion bullet sponge mobs after twisting all your friends arms to make them play, Bungie shuts that down the next chance they get. It is plain and simple Bad Game Design. If I want to go back and solo Dungeons from a few seasons ago that I missed, because Bungie didn’t bother to provide matchmaking. I should be able to do so without absurd difficulty. All the pve nerfs are complete garbage. You want to do really hard versions with friends, great. But don’t make that the ONLY way to do that content.

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        • Honestly if you believe bungie puts effort into looking at data that’s a you problem This is the company that is too lazy to play test their updates, but you think they put in actual effort looking at data😂

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        • Edited by Gambit: 5/29/2020 6:08:48 PM
          Checking.....checking.....checking....sorry, Datto said No.

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        • Fun is subjective. Some players enjoying stomping on enemies feeling powerful, some players enjoy relaxing and casually exploring the game at their leisure, some players are complete masochists and want to be beaten by a single thrall that’s stupidly overpowered in hopes they get better

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          • “Oh look, nobody eat shit! Lets make all food taste even worse and twice as expensive so people will like shit!” Scarab Lord

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            • Yes. What’s fun and what the data says should be fun are two different things. The most balanced logical version of this game(d2 vanilla) was not fun and a disaster. There is a balance to be struck.

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            • Luke Smith's definition of fun is not my definition of fun. Please don't listen to him.

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            • Games where power creep has been allowed to run rampant aren't fun to play either. You just haven't experienced that in this game, because Bungie never lets things get that bad before they step in and do something.

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              • please point on the doll where the "." touched you.

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              • I wouldn't be surprised to see Bungie all but go back to pre go fast levels just so they can add it back half way through year 4 to make people feel like they did something positive.

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              • Unnerf everything please... Most the nerfs were in a vacuum of power so unnerfing everything would probably work really well... Turn everything up to 11.

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              • Agreed, nerfing based on usage data and not actual feedback/buffing underperforming weapons/gear is so dumb. Next they gonna make red bars require an entire magazine to kill instead of the half it is now

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                • The problem is that there’s a group that like to “struggle” for “fun”. It just so happens to go with this annual design philosophy. To sum it up, I’d like to shout out one of my favorite weapon perks [spoiler]Unforeseen Repercussions[/spoiler]

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                • Agreed. Looking at the data for the wrong reasons. It’s telling the wrong story.

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                • The truth is, if they would actually play their own game things might be a little bit different when it comes to adjusting whatever. 6 years and they still haven't figured that out yet. How is that possible???

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                • 4Head JUST

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                • What? Fun? No. Why would people play a game for enjoyment rather than constantly throw money at you and do everything you tell them?

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                • "People are complaining that there's not much content? Time to nerf reload perks."

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                • Data would be fine if the analysts understood context... Prime example, Luke Smith stating that they decided to not bring Factions back because people stopped using Faction Armour.... after they had made it irrelevant after Forsaken... The data supported that fact... but if you add context, the decrease in use was directly related to the fact that it was a less viable option...

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                  • Edited by Kiro - 13: 5/29/2020 1:59:33 AM
                    they need to be pushing content and raids. and when these are rolled out then they adresses this power creep issue with sunsetting weapons. The game is starving on content but instead they are pushing the quality of life update that is sunsetting. Before you get all upset I am calling it a quality of life update thats what its core is, to breathe new life in the game dealing stagnation and powercreep. They are focusing on a quality of life update when those resources should have been driven into content with the sunset coming after. They say tooling end game content around our great collection of weapons is a challenge when they are trying to be creative. Valid point. But these changes are all preemptive changes to support content that is still in the works. [b]Sorry to say Bungie that is classic mismanagement, you make a product that people are attracted to first. Then roll out the re-tolling. & for some reason they started with the last step first..... /golf clap [/b] Ive seen it play out before my eyes in life before. You have a grand vision, and you have a solid platform already. But its not undergone any actual improvements or additives for a good moment. Then they start brain storming on how to roll out these changes. important details pop up such as in this instance how do they create great content when the users current tools are are over-performing, and then the group gets bogged down in details. Dont reinvent the wheel guys get some one in their that gets the teams vision together. Also for the record I am totally against sunsetting, but I also see the the strong points of it and why it COULD be a good change.

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                  • Even though Destiny isn’t fun right now, Funny story: Remember that Centurion Oryx took right after you landed on the Dreadnaught, then the Centurion and the taken Ogre tried to stop you from killing the King? Heh... didn't work. So the Centurion's bond brothers are pretty angry they lost their commander. They're leading a team to blow up the Dreadnaught's core. Core goes... most of the system goes with it. You're going to make sure that doesn't happen.

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