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After 288 escalation protocols for my first Ikelos shotgun, 183 hollow lairs for my god roll mindbender, dismantling over 300 tranquility snipers till the one I wanted, killing riven 44 times for 1000 voices, doing scourge 68 times for anarchy, blowing up galarhand 32 times for tarrabah, about 50 gardens of salvation vex genocides to get the god rolled weapons there with still a god roll hand cannon and pulse rifle missing, doing over FOUR HUNDREAD insight terminus to get a god roll long goodbye, 500+ menagerie runs and still only have about 70% of the god rolls I want there and double that amount of runs in forges with still a blast furnace missing from my god roll collection I will state that there is no lack of exiting drop moments for me when I finally can stop the grind after getting my god roll. That's EVERY SINGLE WEAPON in my vault: a god roll with hours to months of farming behind it and is my sole drive to play the game. Now all of them will become obsolete in seasons to come thanks to sun setting. Try to put yourself in the shoes of collector players like me and many others and tell me why should I keep playing after this insult that is gear retirement? I sadly enjoy destiny very much since the launch of d1, but find myself unable to continue playing and moved over to other games that respect the time I put into them. To put it simple here is what I wanted for the game: in case I spent months offline and came back my reaction needed to be "Oh look how much new stuff I have to go after! More god rolls to chase, how do I get them, let me infuse my old god rolls to the new level so I can do the new activities (Strikes, raids, pvp, arenas, etc) and get the new weapons god rolls". Now for the love of god tell me WHY IS THIS such a bad thing for the players? Because this type of player seems to be what bungie hates the most and intentionally screws over the most. What I now have is this: "Ok, Im back after months, let me see what I missed... oh cant get them ever again... and my old gear, cant use it in new activities anymore... well I guess ill go back to check warframe then..."

I’m prepared for all this negativity to go away since most of y’all will not be playing anymore. How nice that will be.

This is exactly what worries me. I'm not the kind of person that grinds for specific rolls on weapons or gear, so the concept of sunsetting doesn't bother me too much (although I fully understand why it does for some) but I just don't see us getting a whole new suite of weapons like we did with the taken king.

[quote]Not fooling me. You are sunsetting weapons...yet you don't have enough content to do so. Stop getting rid of things and nerfing your game to try make it better. You are not prepared for how many people will leave your game. How about you replace all your "blue drops" with legendary weapons and armor. You say you are "listening" hahahahaha...yet you really are not at all. Why you don't you focus more on the customization of weapons and armor, and shaders, and supers,, rather then just tossing everything in the trash. I have been playing since day 1, D1. How can you say that you are trying make a better game when you focus on activities that are dull and nobody wants to play. Season after season, you buff mods that nobody uses, and nerf all the good mods, weapons, and armor to "balance" your game for a current meta. Which never really works.[/quote] Got a strong feeling all the sunsetted gear will get a new name, shader and be fed to us as brand new weapons bingle, you best hope your fb’s lap that up

Think of the last time the loot pool was hit like this. Bungie smacked all that gear you earned during D1 Y1 away and in game TTK. With 2.5 years worth of loot being smacked away obviously I think they try and fill the crater that’ll be left there.

I hope Bungie aren’t ready. The poor devs don’t deserve the horrendous crunch time that will be looming after this fall release, backtracking on all the unpopular decisions currently being made. However the management deserve their fate. Arrogant, asinine, deluded and superfluous to the requirement of making the game FUN!!!

Without rewards that have value they can't keep the behavioral rewards model going, not a lot is REALLY worth chasing around anymore so the addiction cycle is less strong. Cue weapon sunsetting, the cheapest way to keep people chasing that carrot. Take it away and give it back again but "stronger." They know what they're doing, I just hope people can actually walk away and show them it's not OK.

They are too busy creating content for eververse to be bothered with any of us freeloading trash. Doesn't matter if you already bought the game and all dlc and season pass. You matter not if u dont spend real money in eververse

“How about you replace your blue drops with legendary weapons...” You mean like how all of the world drops will be from that 30 weapon legendary pool you’re talking about being so lacking? I know people are emotional, but try to read ALL of what they publish before going on a bit of a rant.

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