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Edited by iDovahBear: 5/28/2020 9:04:53 PM
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D1 Truly Was The Better Game

[spoiler][quote]Convince me otherwise. (Pro tip: You can't.)[/quote] [i]This opening line has apparently left many people jaded or tilted, which defeats the mood of the rest of the post, which is just a wistful, emotional response to gauge my general mood now that I've retried D2 on PC. Leave it to everyone on here to take offense and get butthurt when I use a meme format from imgur to break the ice. But at the same time, screw your self-inflamed keyboard warrior selves who can't help but take offense to something that isn't even itself an offensive remark. No wonder this place is always vitriol. To those of you who can't tell: This is obviously emotional feedback. Yes, some of you are clever enough to discredit emotional feedback under the term "nostalgia," but that's not an argument. The truth is there is no counter argument here except an emotional response that has the exact opposite response, which I'm sure many of you are more than capable (and willing) to make if you so choose. A person's emotional response to a game is triggered by certain factors. Yes, there are obviously things I didn't like about D1, but that game never went so far down the wrong rabbit hole as D2. I hadn't been pushed away from D1 like I had with D2, as you can see by how little I play it in comparison, so making the argument that it's just nostalgia is weak. The fact is, there were reasons I played the game way more than D2, and thus I promote D1 style game design over D2 purely on that basis. What's funny though is that shouldn't be seen as an attack on D2. It is, by and large, a D1 clone. But there is something critical missing or made different, and as much as I the player try to gauge what it could be, it's very difficult. I thought it was the FoV changes, but now I've tried it on PC and still feel alienated by the game. I can't definitively come out and say that it's x or y. That it's about reward vs. incentive, moments of power, etc. I can only narrow it down to how the controls feel comparatively. All I can say is, without a doubt, D1 hit the nail on the head where D2 was like a horseshoe that got close. I do not get the same output in D2 that I got from my input in D1, and that enough is the wedge that drives me apart. It has fundamentally ruined the game despite any quality of life improvements or rewards vs. investment ratios that can be properly gauged, measured and compared, etc. It doesn't matter to me that content got better or the game got prettier if there's that underlying problem where I feel like I'm not playing the same game because the controls are not quite as analogous as I would've hoped considering how well received D1's gameplay was overall.[/i][/spoiler] Does anyone else ever wish they could go back to D1 pre-Special Ammo nerf? I really wish I could go back. The gameplay was some of the best. The content, while not perhaps the most challenging, was grandiose and fulfilling. D2 feels like a watered down emulation with the occasional throwback, reference, etc. I don't know what's in store, but I'll never NOT wish for a revival of D1 style gameplay. I'll never NOT wish they hadn't pseudo-retconned lore, scrapped/rewrote the plot, etc. or whatever dumpster fire happened between D1 and D2's development direction and design, etc. It's been awhile since I've been around here, but it seems like the mood is always the same: Few actually hold this game in as high an esteem as the first, if they even admit to liking D1. I wish I could have the old vision for Destiny back at the helm. Those really were some of the best times. I doubt another game will ever be able to hit that same honeypot that D1 managed to.

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  • I miss solar burn nightfalls with Vision of Confluence, Black Hammer, and Gjally.

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  • You can go back,whenever you want.

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  • I say D1 is better due to the nostalgia more so. D2 is simply in a bad dev state. But I say d2 is logically better.

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  • Still is . Oh so love my Striker Titan and the Death from Above Super. Total devastation!

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  • D1 was a far more superior game. If you could put the titles aside, along with graphics and all. And asked a new person to try both and guess which is newer. They’d probably say D1. Because it would feel better in every single aspect of the game. To this very moment. I have no idea how they managed to mess it up. D1 progressed until it was PERFECT. And then D2 came out after they pressed that big hideous reset button and disregarded all they’ve learned and improved on in D1. What a sad state D2 is in. But i still play. Not planning on stopping. I occasionally go back to D1. Better days spent there. But when a new game comes out you can’t help but move forward (if that’s what we call it).

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  • Right up until the special ammo nerf I just couldn’t get enough D1. I literally lived and breathed it. D2 has some really good quality of life updates but on the whole just doesn’t capture my imagination like D1. If I could pick and choose bits from D1 and D2 then I could put together the greatest game ever made. Pity that’s not possible.

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  • Agreed. Fun. D2 is getting so convoluted. Sunsetting?! WTF is that?

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    • Debatable

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    • Won’t disagree with you on that...but what’s your point? It’s common knowledge D2 had questionable design flaws spearheaded by “Lunchbox Luke“ Smith in its early development.

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    • For personal D1 raid nostalgia check this.. https://d1.raid.report

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    • 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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    • Ive been playing d1. Its still fun and enjoyable to me. D2 isnt for guys like me anymore. Or a lot ppl anymore it seems.

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    • In the way of skyboxes and ambiance? Marty is very present in the D1.

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    • D2 was Luke Smith's vision for Destiny, and D1 had Staten amongst the others that left the companies influence.

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    • D1 was when Bungie was actually worthy of being called a triple A studio. This current team is a joke.

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    • Yup. Love D1. Still to this day I’ll hop back in and run some strikes and patrols and rank up my factions. It’s all great. If only it had mantling lol

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      • Are we talking about the same game here? The same D1 where enemies could 2 burst you? The same D1 where it took a shotgun shot to kill a single dreg? The same D1 where you couldn’t do anything without Gjallarhorn? The same D1 where quest steps involved running around Mars for six hours looking for relic iron? The same D1 where getting an exotic, never happened? Because RNG? The same D1 where reloading took an hour? The same D1 where supers felt like jokes? The same D1 where bosses were bullet sponges that didn’t look like you were doing any damage AT ALL? The same D1 where every single encounter was “stand on plate until something happens”? The same D1 where Xur had his own currency that you had to farm out of prison of elders? The same D1 where hunters had blink and titans had twilight garrison, both ruining crucible? The same D1 where grenades could one shot? The same D1 where self-rez ruined PvP? The same D1 where sunsetting ALSO existed? The same D1 where felwinter’s sniper rifle killed at 15 or so meters? The same D1 where all the cool armor was in eververse? The same D1 that had like half the amount of patrol spaces as D2? The same D1 where engrams took up inventory slots? The same D1 where exotic engrams could be legendary, and legendary engrams could be blue? The same D1 where farming a god roll involved playing hundreds of activities at a chance for ONE of the weapon you wanted? The same D1 where body shots did barely any damage, and headshots almost never registered? The same D1 where, wait for it, ice breaker existed? [i][b]That[/b][/i] D1? No.

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        • Venus baby.....

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          • [quote]grandiose and fulfilling[/quote] Wut

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            • D2 got so boring ive went back to D1 for these last few weeks to do raids to get weapons that actually meant something and had different perks and were fun

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              • If a D1 port came out and Bungie supported it I would 100% drop D2 right now.

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              • D1 was better than D2 in alot of ways. Dreadnaught, Venus, Plaguelands. But for me, it was the armor sets. Titan: https://youtu.be/7AkaudcYpR0 Hunter: https://youtu.be/KXiV6jXRNVI Warlock: https://youtu.be/CpWFmVfpKc0

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                • Other than the raids destiny 1 is pretty boring honestly

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                  • Eh 1 was a peice of shit with a bow and the other is just a peice of shit, take your guess.

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                  • Edited by holydracoeva: 5/29/2020 3:42:23 PM
                    Was? As in it had a moment of being better but no longer? Or is better? As in currently better then destiny 2?

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                  • no sh*t sherlock

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