[quote]Ok, I'm just gonna say it HELP US BUNGIE. This comes from a hardcore Hunter fan, but I've used every class and have come up with similar issues. Thank you for discipline, and for exotics that improve our grenades. No PLEASE buff grenades in the crucible. Especially Hunter grenades (which also need a boost in PvE). Hunter void grenades do squat in crucible. Meanwhile, Titans are running around with suppressant and magnetic grenades and warlocks with their scatter and (maybe) axion bolts. DO SOMETHING. The only Hunter grenades that work on guardians are the tripmine (which doesn't have enough damage spread), possible swarm or skip. In PvE, the only grenade good for anything beyond thrall and warbeasts is arc bolt. BUNGIE, HELP OUR GRENADES![/quote] Seriously? Skip grenades with shinobu's vow is out of control right now.