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2/1/2020 5:05:46 PM
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Public event trolls.

I have been trying to squeeze out 2 more measly Heroic Events for the past hour, I've come very close. This is for my obelisks. Trolls keep showing up with rockets and grenade launchers trying to kill the boss as quickly as possible when it's painfully obvious I'm attempting to make it Heroic. I don't blame them, they are who the are, and people attempting to make others miserable in Destiny has seemingly always been common place. I find the issue here is the issue in many other places... The rewards are lacking. There is no incentive to make it Heroic, unless it's a quest requirement. The lackluster rewards remain the same for normal or Heroic. I like the loot in Destiny, the aesthetics, their unique feel and function. People liked menagerie when it didn't feel like a time sink. 980s are equally as rewarding as 950 night falls. Maybe make the bosses prior to the Heroic version a little heartier so that some of us trying to do these public events have a chance. Or give a reason for patrol noobs to make these things Heroic. I find pve underwhelming, it is a means to an end to improve my arsenal. Beyond that, it just reminds me that no matter how much you encourage people to work together or pool our efforts as a community, people have more fun being nasty to each other. The game should excite people to play it correctly.

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  • The real reasons are that a large majority of players these days only play for better loot or to troll other players. The same issue goes with strikes, where players just rush through everything to finish then do the same thing on the next one. There's no actual game that they're trying to play. They're playing for loot, and might as well cheat or play idle games. If your main reason for playing is to rush through and complete things quickly specifically for loot, and that's it, you shouldn't be playing. That's just showing that you don't like the actual gameplay, yet continue to play the game. Then you have the trolls where it's blatantly obvious that they're doing things to hinder other players. You can even see them in the comments here. "If it rustles jimmies, that's a bonus." What a trash human being.

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  • They are playing [i]correctly.[/i] They are working on their own bounties, and heroic events don’t reward enough to make it worth the extra time. Plus you have new players that don’t know how to do it. It’s on Bungie to make the rewards such that people aren’t motivated to do that.

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    • Edited by manowar: 3/21/2020 9:42:30 AM
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    • Lol I just do it which ever way is the fastest. If that happens to be non heroic, so be it. Glad it gets some jimmies rustled too tho hehehe, bonus!

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      • 980s are not the same as 950s. It's BS

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      • If I see somebody trying to turn it heroic I'll stop killing the boss because I figure they are needing to do it for a quest. I show a little consideration for others. Unfortunately this game is full of toxic twinkle trolls who dont care about anything but themselves. It's the way society has become in general. It's all about me. All the troll responses to this proves my point and about 90 percent of it dont get it and never will because they can't ever see beyond what's in it for me.

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        • The issue is that bounty is 2 public events not 2 heroic So burn it

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        • Yeaterday there was 3 of us on the moon trying to make the tanks heroic, we had one charge left to insert and some jerk blows the tank up intentionally. When asked wtf he said for the lulz. I hate people.

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        • Your closing is the answer. Just make the event give better rewards when heroic (small chance at a enhancement core, or even a prism, for example) and a significant XP gain (not huge but in the couple of thousands-ish territory). Make [b]every[/b] quest and bounty requiring PE completions gain 2x progress if a public event is complete on Heroic. You are safer in 90% of situations just doing the normal mode and moving on because there are very few quests or bounties that require only Heroic events whereas pretty much all of them will take a normal completion and may or may not gain bonus progress for Heroic. So technically, it is more considerate to do it normally, as, for most players you’ll be saving time, unless one of three reasons: you [b]have[/b] to for your objective, a quest came out recently that benefits from a Heroic completion (Bastion for example: just help those people on the Tangled Shore out for a week or two and then return to normal melting), or the PE is one of the ones where the Heroic doesn’t take any significant amount longer than the normal mode (Ether Harvest, Injection Rig, Cabal Excavation, etc.). To fix this, make the really bad ones, the ones that take 3x as long if you do them Heroic (Glimmer Extraction, Cryo-Pod), take less time. People are perfectly justified in not bothering to make it Heroic and not wasting their own time if there is no incentive/no consistent incentive to do so and the event takes longer than just loading somewhere else and doing two more normal events in the time it would’ve taken to do one Heroic. Especially given that Timelost Frames (probably one of the main things people are doing PEs for consistently right now) that require PEs do not gain bonus progress for Heroic completions. So basically Bungie needs to: -Increase rewards. -All—no exceptions—bounties, triumphs, quests, and any other similar thing requiring PEs should gain 2x progress for Heroic. -Decrease amount of time spent on specific Heroic events to fall closer in line with base completion speeds. -And then, only after all of that, make it easier for some of these activations to occur. For example, give the Fallen Walker slightly more health but make it weak to Scorch Cannons. Or some gimmick like that, which encourages completing the Heroic activator if melting through the boss (or other equivalent objective) is a problem for people hoping to make it Heroic. Until then, people are perfectly justified in completing events however they see fit, even if mildly annoying when you need the Heroic. You have to respect their time, too. And chances are, you’ll be getting progress toward whatever no matter what.

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          • There's a few PE's you can turn heroic no matter how much the blueberries try to troll. I'd stick with the ones with the Cabal glimmer extractors where you need to shoot down the ship to make it heroic....they can't do anything to stop you making it heroic.

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            • Kelly is white-knighting public event plebs. Who would have thought.

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            • There are a lot of casual morons now..... It's simple. They are too lazy to learn how to do it and it's not even hard. It's laughable that people still can't do the Taken Blight public event. It's a joke and yes, rewards suck.

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            • Not sure where you are going for the bounties, but I have three simple letters to solve your problem: E-D-Z There are a lot of locations for public event spawning, players there seem to know what to do, and are more willing to do it.

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            • Bungie needs to Award acendent shards via heroics... Problem solved.

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              • Go to winding cove on edz, artifacts edge on nessus or the rupture on IO. It's the same cabal event every time and will almost always be heroic. If you're lucky you can hit them pretty much back to back and they have a pretty quick respawn timer. Don't even bother with tangled shore unless you just need non heroic events.

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              • Not sure what location you were on for these Public Events, but if you happened to be on the Tangled Shore, keep in mind that Spider's wanted bounties sometimes mean those players are going for the boss kill for their bounty rather than the cryo-freeze. Not every time are people just doing it to intentionally screw you over. Most of them probably don't care enough about you to do that. Lol

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                • Unless specified which planet/moon it has to be on, just do the ones that are simple to turn heroic, even as a solo player. If you have Sleeper Simulant equip it and go to Winding Cove in Earth. Just stand in the circle near the drill rig (avoiding the red circles) and watch the timer. At about 30 seconds the ship drops down from the sky. Once you know where it drops you can very quickly shoot it 4 times with Sleeper and blow it up. This turns the event Heroic, then just burn down the boss with your Super and the rest of your Heavy Ammo. Easy, Peazy. The same event is on IO closest to Asher’s fast travel location. Try to get there in time to rally the flag each time for ammo and a full super. Most of the other public events you’re simply taking a chance that other players won’t finish them before they go Heroic. Have fun.

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                • that witch ritual public event is real easy to make heroic.. i think the boss goes away and the only thing to do is make it heroic

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                • Edited by nonchalantone: 2/3/2020 3:59:52 AM
                  They trolled you the same way you trolled us with no paragraph breaks. I see why it annoyed you.

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                • PEs should automatically go Heroic if there are X number of people doing it, or if anyone doing it has a bounty or quest or something that requires Heroic PE. And trolls should get banned.

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                • I will make the public event heroic if it either makes it go faster, is more fun to do heroic, or is not any different. But, If it's the glimmer extraction, or the wanted target public events where I have to sit in a circle for 3 minutes shooting the occasional "Add". I'd rather spend that time doing another public event. There is just no reason to do a heroic over a regular other than doubled quest progress. But for heroic events that take twice as long as doing 2 events? I'm melting that boss in 15 seconds.

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                • YES THIS... I totally agree, it really it frustrating particularly when you've started the event solo and just before you trigger the heroic some moron comes along with a grenade launcher and super and melts the boss in 3 seconds... Bungie definitely needs to make heroic public events much more rewarding than regular ones with things like enhancement chores as part of the reward... Also we should definitely have NEW (themed) public events each season... They should be a major thing, more difficult and more rewarding, and encourage guardians to come in and help each other... I remember so often in D1 flying through an area on ya sparrow en route to an objective and seeing a lower level guardian alone in a public event and racing over to help them and after completing it dancing around etc. But now guardians just usually either completely ignore it and fly on by or melt the boss and their off... 🤪 And also they need to stop with the bounties and quest requirements that put us against each other in a race to get/steal the most kills to get them done... Public events and planets/patrol in general have so much under utilized potential and need some love before we get any more boring new (same shit different smell) activities like Vex offensive and sundial... 😎👍

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                  • If this is on tangled shore then its actually yet another BS Bungie mistake. There are bounties that require public events and not heroic ones. The obelisk quest also does not require heroic. You have likely just run into people trying to get the ten done as quickly as possible. Toxic quest design. Players have complained about this for years.

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                  • It's highly likely they were finishing up a different quest or bounty and basically just playing there own game, surely that's allowed. Don't blame the player blame the game.

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                    • Why you crying like a little girl? If you don't want other people in your lobby, switch your system time an hour back and load in and play by yourself. It seems thats what you like to do! To expect blueberries to play to your game style is what we call entertainment..

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