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12/16/2019 5:36:49 AM
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Sundial activity dialogue points at Calus being dead
Just heard it again and can confirm. Osiris states he does not know what the Cabal intends to actually do. Possibly to revive their dead emperor. Took me a few seconds and my inner lore person going, "excuse me. Repeat that one more time."
Theory time. I have long considered the ascendant plane and Darkness linked for the obvious reasons of enemy affiliation and furthermore that its power is unparalleled since the clue of "The Deep" is a biblical reference (Genesis 1-2) which is the original darkness before the light. Now... we know enough about the ascendant plane and its powers, but we do not know who calls upon its domain. For example... should the Fallen form an actual house of light? It will be met with speculation, questions, and for a long time the bond will exist to see if the Fallen fall back on the House of Rain jealousy behavior once they get near the Traveler.
But they would be given that chance. One way or another, we would allow such a chance if only so small.
So the ascendant plane is the realm/place. Calus has proven he has powerful sources there from the raid. IF it is true they are going there... and if it is true they are using the darkness in similar concepts like guardians? Wielding it to grow its domain? Then we have to consider the realm of possibility that bomb logic might not be enough for these kinds of fights.
What do you all think?
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Ghaul [spoiler]twirls stache [/spoiler]
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5 RepliesAs others said: they are 100% talking about Ghaul. He was the Cabal emperor from the time of his and the Consul’s revolt until us and the Traveler defeated him. None of the Red Legiok consider Calus their leader, full stop.
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Pretty sure he’s referring to Ghaul
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10 RepliesThe question here is why would a “lore person” believe Calus is the Emperor of the Red Legion? Calus exiled Ghaul and the Cabal that followed Ghaul, and they became the Red Legion. Ghaul became their new Emperor
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4 Repliesall cabal except for loyalists saw Ghaul as emperor because he usurped the throne from Calus long ago.
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Alternate timeline
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4 RepliesMost likely Ghaul. The Cabal saw him as their emperor except for the loyalists.
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<It was only Ghaul who didn't consider himself Emperor. Glad to see others don't either.>
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Ghaul was declared emperor for a while. I just assumed that the Red Legion still call Ghaul emperor and refused to acknowledge Calus. Kinda like a #notmyemperor deal.
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You may have something I've only heard Calus referred to as Emperor the called Ghaul Dominus so maybe. Osiris also mentions to ask Calus a his dreams.
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[quote]Just heard it again and can confirm. Osiris states he does not know what the Cabal intends to actually do. Possibly to revive their dead emperor. Took me a few seconds and my inner lore person going, "excuse me. Repeat that one more time." Theory time. I have long considered the ascendant plane and Darkness linked for the obvious reasons of enemy affiliation and furthermore that its power is unparalleled since the clue of "The Deep" is a biblical reference (Genesis 1-2) which is the original darkness before the light. Now... we know enough about the ascendant plane and its powers, but we do not know who calls upon its domain. For example... should the Fallen form an actual house of light? It will be met with speculation, questions, and for a long time the bond will exist to see if the Fallen fall back on the House of Rain jealousy behavior once they get near the Traveler. But they would be given that chance. One way or another, we would allow such a chance if only so small. So the ascendant plane is the realm/place. Calus has proven he has powerful sources there from the raid. IF it is true they are going there... and if it is true they are using the darkness in similar concepts like guardians? Wielding it to grow its domain? Then we have to consider the realm of possibility that bomb logic might not be enough for these kinds of fights. What do you all think?[/quote] I think you got something backwards here. Calus isn't the emperor. Ghaul is. If the red legion want to undo the red war, they'd have Ghaul back..... Cause he died at the end. Read the chronicon and read the parts where the psion scribe describes calus' interaction with the darkness. You'll see what happened to him.
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2 RepliesWouldn’t they be talking about Ghaul? I thought that the Red Legion were part of the people that exiled Calus.
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3 RepliesSince they are red legion wouldn't he be referring to Ghaul?
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6 RepliesNot revive. Reinstate. He wondered if they would revive Ghaul, or reinstate their exiled emperor.
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2 RepliesGreat. Now I need to replay the sundial over and over till I get this prompt. I’ll come back with an opinion when I hear the quote.
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that's a cool thought
