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Depression & Anxiety.

I want to talk about something real. Depression and anxiety can make life tough for a lot of people, so I wanted to offer those of you with these conditions a strategy that I learned that really helped me out: [b]A B C D[/b] The ABCD technique can explain why certain situations cause you to feel depressed or anxious. [b]A:[/b] Adversity [b]B:[/b] Beliefs [b]C:[/b] Consequences [b]D:[/b] Debate When you feel depressed or anxious, it's because there's been something in your life, some [i]adversity[/i] that's causing you some stress. But, you need to remember this: [b]A does not lead to C.[/b] The adversity alone isn't what causes you to feel that way. Rather, it's your [i]beliefs[/i] about that situation that dictate your mood. For example, maybe someone you loved passed away. It's natural to feel sad about it, but when you enter that depressive episode that's when there's something wrong. The death itself isn't what's making you depressed, it's how you interpret the loss. Maybe you feel like there's something you should have done. It's different for everybody. But here's where you have to change your thinking. [b]B leads to C.[/b] Your beliefs are what shape your emotions. You have to [i]debate[/i] those beliefs to change how you feel. Reevaluating my beliefs (and meds) have helped me overcome my depression and anxieties. I was in a pretty bad place for a while, and I wound up at a mental health hospital because of it. I really wanted to change, and this strategy was at the heart of my recovery. If you have any questions or want to talk about anything, feel free to comment or PM me. No judgments; I've been there, and I know plenty of people who've been there too.
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  • Been depressed and anxious for years, medication never helped, if anything I think it made it worse. Anyways what helped me was being self critical to an excessive degree. No point dying in self pity when if I put effort into getting out of my comfort zone I can be a bit happier. Probably a placebo thing, don't see how that could help my brain making dopamine or whatever.

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    • Sounds a lot like CBT. I've struggled a lot with anxiety on and off for years. Finally started medication last winter but it's not a fix all drug. A lot of it is how you think which is really hard to control. It can take months or even years of practice. Basically with me, if I had a bad experience in a certain setting-once I'm in that setting again my mind tells me that I'm going to have that same bad experience. I have to try and convince myself that even though I'm in that same setting, it doesn't necessarily mean the experience is going to be the same. It's still really hard to do sometimes though.

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      • Thank you for the advice. I've been depressed for over 4 years now even after medications and therapy.

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        • Demons thrive in the dark. We have anxiety when anticipate a negative outcome in the future, from our present circumstances. As you have learned, our beliefs shape our expectations. But also, whether or not we are willing to FACE those conseaquence. IOW, we become anxious when we ask "What if?" ....and then proceed to not fully and reasonably answer those questions. Because what we imagine is often far worse than what actually happens in real life. In Reality. We will survive EVERYTHING that happens to use....except for ONE things. That one thing will kill us...and then our problems will be over. Which is why anxiety---while a common emotion----is an UNPRODUCTIVE one. We can cope with whatever happens to us. But we can't cope with things that haven't happened yet. But we CAN make ourselves miserable and sick worrying about things that haven't happened.....and thigns that are likely beyond our ability to control anyway. Whether is the practices of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.....or the meditation practices of Hinduism and Buddhism. Recognizing and questioning (dis-identifying with) those dysfunctional thought patterns and beliefs (many of which operate below the level of conscious awareness) are the key to peace of mind.

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          • I'll be the first to point out that for someone who runs around these forums, often times being rude for no reason, "No judgement" doesn't really hold a candle to your own behavior.

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            • Edited by Caboune: 8/22/2017 6:07:53 AM
              Thank you but I will take my advices from a professional and not someone who things depression can only be related to sad moments. There is a clear distinction between sadness and actual depression.

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              • Pretty accurate. Wish I'd known that when I was like 19

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              • What if I C to DAB?

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                Thank you for sharing something that helped you & for offering to listen to others. I hope that if someone needs it, they will see it & not be pushed away by the folks being......whatever they are & actually try it.

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              • I agree 100% with this. I from time to time have mental breakdowns cos of my anxiety. For example today I had some shit to deal with and instead of facing my problems I got anxious and end up crying alone in the car. But as I was alone I started to think that just getting anxious is not gonna solve the problem. So I start thinking and now I feel alot better. Probably could have sort out my problem too maybe not all but most of it. Talk with someone helps too. Your friends or a close relative.

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              • Logic has helped me as weird as that sounds. Identify the problem causing your reaction and break it down into how to solve or adapt. Having a game plan reduces the uncertainty about the situation. But I have very minor cases and can imagine how someone with a more intense case could have problems with confronting the issues.

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              • Quality post. But I just wanna clarify a few things. For a lot of people, depression isn't a "come and go" thing. I myself am one of them. I have what is called "hereditary" or "chronic" depression. Its genetic and will never go away. I'm 41 now. Even at the highest point of my life did I feel pathetic and I spent many years suicidal with no real explanation or cause as to why. The legitimate reason is that my body doesn't produce enough serotonin. But even with depression that doesn't go away, there are many things that help. What you said is 100% true in my experiences with depression. It never goes away, but it can definitely be diminished.

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                • Nice! I currently help/helped my friends from depression. I try my best to make em feel happy. The rest is up to them.

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                  • There are chemicals called neurotransmitters that are a part of the ABCD process as well. These chemicals sometimes reinforce those feelings and in part effect beliefs. As a long time victim who has suffered tremendously from anxiety let me share with you something that helps neutralize the toxins in the body that can lead to an overflow of these chemicals. StressRx. It's a simple formula and it works almost immediately. I'm a mental health clinician myself and will be meeting one of the co-creators of this outstanding supplement in the coming weeks. He has dedicated his entire practice to helping people stop living stress filled lives. It will stop the "stuck in the mud" feelings of depression and the tense feelings of anxiety that go hand in hand. Stress Rx has helped save my life.

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                  • Oh god- cognitive behavioural therapy... It's not even close to effective in practice unless you've the discipline to keep practicing it or the money to see someone regularly. Stick to the SSRI's and then if you think you can do more try it.

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                    • I can't tell the difference between my depression and growing up anymore. If there even is a difference.

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