[quote]Fatebringer is OP on PvE.[/quote] This is where I stopped caring (except enough to tell you this). No one gives a flying [b]f[/b]uck if a gun is OP in Raids/Strikes, etc. Why? Because OP stuff is [b]fun[/b]. And I'm not ruining someone's day by using an OP gun on them in Crucible.