I love them both, I really do. But their take is literally why EOF pooped the bed:
Hurrr, we want more difficult raids!
Durr, we want the game to be moar harder!
Hurr, we want moar grind!
Done, done and done.
How did that turn out?
I wish you all luck on Renegades and your future endeavors.
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1 ReplyYou don’t bring ppl in for feedback less than a month away from a release. They were there to create hype and that’s it. Notice that most of the ppl they invited get over excited about little stuff. If I had a dollar for every time cross claims a new weapon is the best in the game I’d be able to buy Bungie and fix the game myself.
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1 ReplyEdited by BRAZACK: 12/2/2025 11:47:21 AMnot one of them are telling bungie that the portal sucks -blam!-. bungie is still trying to fix the one thing that everybody hates in the game. bring back gm nightfalls and the old system of weekly featured raids , dungeons, nightfalls, missions and exotic missions. this was fun idk why they fixed it / it wasnt broken and was working. remove the selectable mod card nonsense. bring back fixed weekly rotating mods with elemental burns (arc , solar , void , stasis or strand)and weapon burns (special , heavy and kinetic). this was fun. they can keep the armor stat changes but let them be maxed out at 100 / rebalanced around that. bring back expert , master and gm difficulties/ this is all we needed rebalance around that. the portal should just be a tab that shows all of the featured content for the weekly reset . thats it, people can either use that or the destination tab . remove tier 5 nonsense and bring back adepts. adepts were special tier 5s are not. also tier 5 loot is why most content is obsolete because they were not updated to drop tier 5 loot. this is all the changes we need to bring back the magic but i dont see any streamers talking about it. there may be more that i forgot but imo these are the ones that bother me the most. im worried about d3 because they will screw it up, look at where we are with d2 they are clueless / listening to the wrong feedback. aztecros likes runescape so he will give feedback to make d3 like runescape lol. Edit : loot should be specific to events / playlists. Vanguard, crucible, trials,nightfalls dungeons and raids should all have their own specific loot pools. Currently with the portal you get the same loot from everything which sucks.
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1 ReplyImagine giving streamers control over the game over the player community. That’s a wild decision. If you’re subscribed to any of these people, do the player community a favor and unsubscribe.
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Streamers are a plague in the gaming community.
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Edited by xbroggiex: 12/1/2025 11:18:53 PMAztecross' recent rambling has been "LETS GO BACK TO DESTINY 1!!!! WITH A D1 CLASSIC!!!" He's entertaining to watch sometimes but he is really out of touch. Datto on the other hand is a whiny b that will endlessly cope about being shackled to Destiny as his variety channel got basically no views compared to his Destiny content because he has the personality of wet cardboard. Datto was also supposed to "take a break until Renegades" after he had a little crashout over youtube chat but I guess that was a lie because he was right back when call to arms launched, and then in a complete twist of irony Datto made a video and was complaining about having to level up to get top 1% in the event.
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10 RepliesInvites a guy who quits the game and blames the community. Still unclear what problem he has with the community.
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3 RepliesDid Datto whine some more about not getting enough views....
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31 RepliesI heard Cross say the Invasion activity should have more than the 6 crests needed to complete. How about no and -blam!- you? My idea>Azteccross' idea Not everyone has a desire to do PvP.
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1 ReplyThey also brought in Mr.fruit who at this point has become a casual, honestly of the three he gave the most "real" opinions for Renegades, meaning he had no qualms about stating his opinion with zero sugar coating.
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This was just a recording session not a feedback one from what I understand. Just an avenue for them for record content for a marketing blitz before launch and guides after.
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While lucky was left at home 😂 🍀
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2 RepliesEdited by Stalkholm: 11/30/2025 8:46:04 PM[quote]You brought Datto and Aztecross to Bungie HQs for feedback?[/quote] No, they brought them in for advertising.
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1 ReplyAztecross is pretty based regarding the game. Datto is a full blown shill though
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I swear people don’t even understand what a capture event is at this point. Why tf would they fly out a bunch of CC less than a month before the DLC is slated to release other than to get gameplay footage to advertise and promote the new content? You really think Bungie possesses the skills to completely rewrite/rework an entire DLC in less than 30 days? Grow up.
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DP is one of the easiest raids to learn, so I really don’t understand that first point.
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6 Replies[quote]I love them both, I really do. But their take is literally why EOF pooped the bed: Hurrr, we want more difficult raids! Durr, we want the game to be moar harder! Hurr, we want moar grind! Done, done and done. How did that turn out? I wish you all luck on Renegades and your future endeavors.[/quote] It was a capture event. They were there to get footage so they can market the expansion. Neither gave feedback leading to EoF either.
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No. They brought them in for marketing and promotion. Not taking advantage of cheap advertising would be stupid. They have audiences of hundreds of thousands. But keep up the silly shyt. You're reaching tens of people.
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The only streamer's opinion I'll accept on Renegades is Houndish's. Which was to refuse the invite when he was sent one.
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1 ReplyNo this genuinely needs to be discussed on a more serious level. Why is the only feedback that bungie cares the feedback from khakis, datto, Aztec and people like this?? How can they not have inherent biases when their job is to play destiny 2. Does bungie want to appeal to fans and gamers or content creators and streamers???
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4 RepliesEdited by Approach2Danger: 12/1/2025 1:36:56 PMThey both have good opinions sometimes. I just think currently, cross is the only creator that could totally put destiny to sleep. Idk if you all watching but there's nobody close to his momentum. I use to hate datto until I listened to his videos. The guy knows destiny inside out
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Where on the dolly did the streamers hurt you?
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Been years runnin now my man, where you been?! LOL This IS the last curtain though regardless. They either figure this sh!t out now or they're gonna turn the entire studio into a relic. Yes, my 2 cents, but that IS reality if you see the abysmal numbers. Unsustainable is the only word.
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2 RepliesYou should hear Mr. Fruit and Sweat's opinions on Renegade. It's like night and day after watching Cross and Datto's opinions.
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1 ReplyDid they invite Saltywanker as well whilst they were at it?
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👆 Too much truth in the OG’s post for the Bungie -blam!- to handle. 🤣🤣🤣
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They flew them a month before release, there’s almost no time to incorporate any feedback, except a few small tweaks, maybe. This is purely marketing, with a big emphasis on: « mea-culpa we learned our lesson «