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Edited by DC_Rich: 10/27/2015 7:29:21 PM
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The Taken King.... More like The Taken Kontent

Never have I played a game that removed content and put it all behind a paywall. This is a new low in the video game industry, and Activision and Bungie should be ashamed of themselves. I can no longer play the only things I enjoyed in the game, as they were all taken away. I was thinking about buying TTK, but couldn't afford it just yet. So, I figured I would just do weeklies, play control, do some higher level strike playlists, and maybe some Iron Banner when it drops. Well, can't do any of that now. As a result of this under-handed business tactic, I will not be purchasing TTK, as I cannot support developers who treat their customers this way. Now, before your even mention the EULA, know that there are consumer protection laws for some people, that prevent anyone from agreeing to an unfair contract, even if they previously accepted this agreement. And, I believe they are in violation of these LAWS, which the EULA is not. *EDIT: for those interested, I have filed formal complaints with the BBB, as well as the Washington State Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division. I guess we will see just how far Bungie is legally allowed to take things, and if they are legally in the wrong. As consumers, it is our right to complain of injustices, regardless of EULA's. Anyone refuting this fact is nothing short of ignorant. Now we will see what the law has to say. *Edit: it's amazing how toxic this community is. It seems there is no camaraderie in this community, and people just resort to personal attacks at the first sign of someone having a different opinion, or a genuine issue with the product. Bungie, in my opinion, made a shitty decision, and showed they don't care for anyone who does not purchase TTK, and all the fanboy's can't see past their blind love for the game. So I pose a question to everyone. Ignoring the EULA, what do you think of the way Bungie has handled this expansion roll-out with regards to those that have not purchased it? Put yourselves in their shoes, and give an honest answer. *Edit: For those that care, the BBB complaint has been processed, and Activision has until October 02, 2015 to respond. Apparently hundreds of people have filed complaints against Activision for various games, with amicable resolutions. There is hope. *Edit: just to clear a misunderstanding. I own the game and the first 2 expansions. I paid over $100 for all that just like everyone else. I don't want anything for free. I just want what I have always had... What everyone always had. *Edit: So, Activision responded to my complaint, and had the following to say: [quote]I understand your frustrations, I have dealt with other cases similar to yours. Unfortunately we are not in a situation to provide refunds or compensation. Unfortunately the only thing I am capable of doing for you is to pass along any feedback you might have. I do not know if this policy will change in the future. If there was more I could do, I would do it with no questions asked. For now if you have any more feedback please feel free to update this case along with your Gamertag/PSN ID. Thank you for your time and have a good day.[/quote] They assume that all I want is money. I just want the features back. I already responded to them, and the BBB case. It seems Activision really doesn't care to solve the issue... big surprise there. *Edit: For those that have not seen this. If Bungie is forced to do this, does that not mean their EULA was in violation of these customer's rights? They are forced to right a wrong, and have been given a reasonable window in which to address it. And yes, they are providing storage upgrades. [url]https://www.destinythegame.com/size-requirements[/url] *Edit: To all those following this, I have just received a response back from the Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division of Washington State. They have reviewed my complaint, and deemed it appropriate to move forward. Note, this is a law office deeming this a valid complaint regarding the Consumer Protection Act. So, if they see this as a valid complaint, what right does anyone else have to label this otherwise? They know the law better than you. *Edit: This may be my final edit. For those interested, it appears you can get a refund on your purchase by sending your disc into Activision, and requesting a refund. As per Bungie's EULA, if you do not agree with the terms therein, you are entitled to a refund. So, any guardians out there that don't agree with what happened, and would like a refund, just send your disc to Activision and request one. One final note, should you do this, Bungie will apparently delete your characters and Destiny account from their servers; you have been warned.

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  • Quit crying dude

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  • There are no grounds for the suit, you did not get locked out of content. At its base this is an mmo style game, dailies are always highest level and give you end game gear. Did you get locked out of raids, base story, or base strikes? No any of the special high level versions of these things are for end game people, you did not pay for these versions they are an inherent mechanic of the game, you still have access to all that you paid for. You are expecting to get maxed level when all you paid for was for content up to lvl 34, bungie has actually done pretty good unifying playlists, otherwise the non-ttk player base would Be spread to thin

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  • Edited by gallp13: 9/19/2015 3:51:21 AM
    This belongs in feedback - oh yes it's $40 for 100s of hours of upgraded old and new content. This issue is a total beat up ! You have a right to object .... but the new world order is .... pay and play or go away !

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  • im sorry but what in the da -blam!- did i just read lmao im in tears after this gibberish

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  • Jesus. All of you children on here must have never played any mmos that get content updates. This is a normal thing. Plus there is limited amount of resources to put towards running all that content you want to keep. If we kept all the old playlists we wouldn't be able to have half the new ones. Servers cost money to run and you have to choose what to run on them. If bungie gave into the whiners here then you would be taking content from those of us that paid for it. Stop being selfish.

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  • It's also worth pointing out that the changes you assert ruined your game, also "ruined" it for TTK owners. I own TTK, and I'm loving it, but I can't access ROC strikes anymore, and I can't just Control on Y1 maps, and I can't do missions at different difficulties. Maybe we TTK owners should ALL file complaints with the BBB? OUR OBSOLETE CONTENT GOT ALTERED! My case is just as valid as yours. Or maybe you should acknowledge that being someone who has "played since Alpha" and wants to continue to play because you enjoy the game but won't buy TTK because feelings... is a bit weird, right?

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    • Sorry but you paid for yr1 and that's what you got. A small price to pay for all those hrs of game play. It's like COD new one comes out the old ones fade away and in a few years no support at all. I worked in the table top gaming industry and we faced the same old Sh!t every week. Every one wants something for nothing. The stress levels so live with must be astronomical.

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      • Can't afford to buy the Taken King, starts consumer justice crusade that will cost a fortune in lawyer and legal fees.

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      • Edited by mpuchar: 9/19/2015 2:14:27 AM
        I bought TTK and personally feel that it has been worth every penny, so far. On the other hand i applaud you for exercising your right as a consumer and trying to make a difference. You feel that you have been personally wronged, and are taking action for it. Nothing wrong with that. At the same time you seem to have a somewhat small but false sense of entitlement. Although it might not have been advertised as such, Destiny has become a subscription based game. If you like the content and want to keep playing it, you have to continue to pay as we all have

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        • You were not sold dailies, heroics, nightfalls etc You were sold, patrol, story, strike, raid and social space. You were not sold specific PVP lists. You were sold specific PVP formats i.e rift, skirmish, mayhem etc. You still have access to all the product you paid for, weekly content is in addition to what you purchased, it wasn't advertised and it wasn't specified. Show me where and how you were advertised and sold that dailies, heroics or nightfall. Stop and think before answering, if you were sold it then you still have it, if it was on top of what you brought then you were not sold it and are not due it. You cant sue bungie as the developer only activision as the retailer. You cant sue them anyway as they did not advertise and sell the items you are missing. If you do not want people to be toxic then don't just talk shite and expect us to run with it.

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          • Edited by PlanetaryPhoenix: 9/19/2015 12:12:20 AM
            I actually think that is quite unfair, there are many things I'm not able to do in destiny, even though i got the two expansions, it almost feels like a waste now. ill still get TTK, like the game to much to pass it up. What i am surprised is not a single person agreed, at all.

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          • Thank you man I didn't ever think this would be carried out! Bungie, don't turn in to SHG (Cod Aw)

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          • Edited by ColNapalm: 9/19/2015 1:58:02 AM
            1) Don't pay any attention to the apologists on this forum. You're an unsatisfied customer and their opinion is completely irrelevant. 2) Good for you. If you feel or think you were cheated then bring it forward. Its too bad consumer rights protection is so scant and toothless but... this is the way to show need. 3) Complaints that absorb time, require comment and most importantly, that affect PR are THE most powerful tool in your arsenal. If you don't buy it, that denies them $2-5. If you file, you cost them $100 in time/ salaries. The PR typically costs them thousands AND a lower cut in publishers deals as they become demonstrably high risk. I'm not expressing any opinion as to whether I believe in your cause or points, though I will say that Bungies professional and service conduct is abhorrent and egregious. Regardless, you are entitled to your view, its expression and its about time people started holding people accountable. Cheers.

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            • If this were Call of Duty Advanced Warfare, you'd be paying 59.99$ for the new game (Black Ops 3,) plus the additional 50$ for the season pass. It's been a year since release, this new content is still cheaper than the alternative.

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            • Filed my complaint as well, BBB replied saying Activision has till October 12th for mine.

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              • What are you, the developers of Mortal Kombat?

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                • Holy shit I've never muted someone faster lmao

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                • See you in a month. /thread

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                • [quote]You were not sold dailies, heroics, nightfalls etc You were sold, patrol, story, strike, raid and social space. You were not sold specific PVP lists. You were sold specific PVP formats i.e rift, skirmish, mayhem etc. You still have access to all the product you paid for, weekly content is in addition to what you purchased, it wasn't advertised and it wasn't specified. Show me where and how you were advertised and sold that dailies, heroics or nightfall. Stop and think before answering, if you were sold it then you still have it, if it was on top of what you brought then you were not sold it and are not due it. You cant sue bungie as the developer only activision as the retailer. You cant sue them anyway as they did not advertise and sell the items you are missing. If you do not want people to be toxic then don't just talk shite and expect us to run with it.[/quote]

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                • Most non Desticles left these forums before 2015... You should have seen the rabid flaming coming. I'm just lurking around to see if TTK was worth a shit, and apparently it's not.

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                  • Oh no! You've awoken the [i]Desticles[/i]!!!!

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                  • Oh my god your an idiot to the highest degree. People like you are ruining this world

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                  • Your a complete -blam!-ing moron.

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                  • They didn't remove anything. End game content is end game content. TTK is now the end game. Did you buy TTK? Obviously not, so you no longer own anything when it comes to end game. It's that simple.

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                    • Edited by Dredd_fan: 9/18/2015 10:47:37 AM
                      You have played this game for 885 hours. Therefore you have got more than your money's worth. So stop whining. Any console game that gives someone 50 / 60 hours of gameplay is considered a good purchase.

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                      • It's like a subscription game, if you don't have the latest DLC what your playing is essentially a demo version. When paying for destiny you paid for up the next DLC, then you get a basic version.

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